kslb Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 You were in the right with regard the highway code and in the wrong with your overeaction! Diplomacy always works! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 The best reaction is to laugh and smile at them, it seems to wind them up even more. My mate does that, waves too. It gets right up people I think you might have went a little OTT Steve, although its not like you were going to kill kim, and hopefully he wasn't going to kill you - so a lesson hopefully learnt Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 You were in the right with regard the highway code and in the wrong with your overeaction! Diplomacy always works! fighting total strangers solves everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 The question isn't about the series of events leading up to the incident,or who was in the right or wrong when you entered the roundabout but rather your subsequent actions once it had taken place. You've already answered the question for yourself, or rather your conscience has. What happened at the time was a momentary loss of self control under provocation from the other party. Looking at it objectively, you over reacted, lost your cool/temper and it could have ended up so badly for you it doesn't bare thinking about. Next time if it happens, count to ten, take a deep breath, do whatever, but don't do what you did and think about the consequences and the possible effect on others. You wouldn't want to be another Stephen Cameron, would you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra steveo Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 hehe someone get there agry voice out of the box,try not to touch them next time thats classed as assault these days Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lambertpig Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 regardless of who was in the right or wrong nobody should be subjected to verbal abuse. i would have stopped and in a very diplomatic verbal manner made him feel very stupid for being so rude. remember if you lay your hands on somebody first without them going for you then its common assult regardless of whatever they have said to you, the road is always full of witnesses who may not have heard anything but just seen you throwing the guy about in a pychotic manner. so be carefull easy for me to preach as it has never happened to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I heard of a local guy who did exactly what you did, only difference is that he ended up in hospital, the other guy got out the car as requested and then beat him half to death. To many unknowns in this day and age, think yourself lucky and learn from your mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 My feelings on this (no surprise in what follows) are the same as Doug's. What we've all got to remember is that as car nuts that take pride in out motors & drive them properly (well I hope you do), the 'others' out there on the road have only learned to drive and passed a very basic qualification because they have to. To them its a necessity, not a pleasure..... Some even hate driving!! So, when faced with a total knob you've just got to remember these four words "THEY KNOW NO BETTER". That's the simple truth, and once you identify this then you can shake your head, wave them on and pity them for their poor driving skills. Keep a calm head on your shoulders, and then drive on by as you pass them further down the road buried into some road furnature! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 It's not easy to stay calm when you're in the right and they start cursing and swearing at you when it's so obviously their fault. I was going straight on at a three lane roundabout at the end of the motorway, I was in the middle lane which incidently could also be used for turning right together with the right hand lane. I was in my long wheelbase van which is much larger than the Supra. This stupid cow was in the left lane when on the roundabout and decided to turn right , no indicators either. I beeped the horn and braked hard , they had the nerve to turn around and gave me all sorts of abusive. I decided to follow them as I was fuming,followed them about three miles to the Asda carpark. I had calmed down by then, but I just wanted to know why they thought I was in the wrong. They stopped their car and, this big bloke who was about 6' 7" and 20 stone got out, he was itching for a fight and was trying to provoke me Needless to say I was lucky to get away, not that I'm a coward but I knew it just wasn't worth it as you never know what could happen in such a situation. I ended up apologising to him , I couldn't even speak to him rationally about what had happened, the nutter wouldn't even listen. The morale of the story is - best to not get involved, you never know what could happen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markymark Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Steve I'm surprised at your reaction but I know how you feel, I see this every day on the roads especially in my job, but I understand where you are coming from and agree with your actions(wish sometimes I do the same) As said by others ignore them and carry on your way as at the end of the day you do not know the other person or know what they are carrying but I do see your point( I can imagine his face when you got out to face him lol) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 some fucker in a truck cut in front of me today on way to work - really shook me up... so when it was clear, i drove close to his window - beeped, and gave him the finger... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 I empathise then. You didn't make it clear from your first post which direction the said guy was coming from and as these sodding small roundabouts can prove confusing to some I had to ask. Its all well and good to sit behind a keyboard and say "hey keep your cool" and yes those people would be in the right saying as much. But then so would the people that say "don't speed". You are way more likely to kill someone or be killed in a ton plus accident than an incident of road rage. I've had a couple of little incidents myself and its usually gestures from another driver thats done something ridiculous and then given it some thats sparked me off. As far as someone cutting me up goes I find holding the horn on and following them for as long as it takes to get an apology works nicely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieg Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 i know of a guy who lost his lience for a year because of this at a set of lights bloke cut him up, as they were braking for them... cops three cars down behind them booked them charged banned etc.. think on..!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burna Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Life's too short to waste time trying to argue and educate some people. Just shoot the next one in the face Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 Let's paint a different scenario, you walk over to his door he voluntarily gets out and stabs you with his knife you had not seen. It's just not worth it... or he thinks sod this, there's a loon coming at me, I'll run the bastard over and escape a beating/stabbing/arse whipping... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
razza Posted July 4, 2007 Share Posted July 4, 2007 just call him a c*nt, give him the finger and drive on, have a little burn and back end wobble and yoiu'll soon forget about it:d Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I'm like a magnet for them Another one this morning, BMW driver (new 3 series) so it can be written off fairly easily but he demonstrated the usual mentality where he did something wrong but chose to vent his frustrations at me. 5 lane motorway, the 2 inside ones are for the M1, the 3 outside for the M621 - he's in the very outside lane of the M621, I'm in the outside of the M1 overtaking a lorry. All of a sudden he puts his indicator on and moves from lane 3 to lane 1 then starts moving towards the side of me, indicator still on from lane 3.... Car behind me, lorry to my left, I lift and make a gap for him, he pulls in and starts giving me the finger! WTF! I passed him and he pointed at his eyes as if to say I need to be more observant and then he pointed at the hard shoulder. LOL!!! I carry on and pull off at the next junction, as he passes he leans over and gives me the old "V" through his passenger window. And all because I saw him coming and let him in - bless him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I would have quite happily of had a chat with him on the hard sholder. May be he wanted to thank you for letting him in if not he could very easily slip and fall into the motor way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I would have quite happily of had a chat with him on the hard sholder. Sadly it's illegal to just pull up on the hard shoulder for a chat, I would have been happy for him to come off at the next junction with me though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Ahh always the model citizan eh Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dibbleyuk Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 Im with ya mate i wish i had done it many times! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Phillw454 Posted July 6, 2007 Share Posted July 6, 2007 I think you did the right thing. Iv your going to sit and think WHAT IF he had a knife then you can apply that to anything, what if you go through a bad neighbourhood and they have knives? I would of done exactly the same thing. You cant live life by what if's. Ok it was riskey but im sure he wont do it again. What if he didnt stop in time? Could of cause you or someone else some serious damage, now youv made him stop and think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo Jim Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 You were in the right with regard the highway code and in the wrong with your overeaction! Diplomacy always works! Diplomacy doesnt always work mate. People in their cars can be very agressive even if they are totaly in the wrong. I drive a bloody big bus all day and obey the highway code like rules from god but i still get verbul abbuse on an almost daily basis because the standard of driving by some is so bad. You cant reason with them even if you calmley explain what they have done wrong they wont listen to you. I quit often feel like getting out and bashing their heads against a wall, but you do have to show some restraint actually pushing them about takes you down to their level. Just say prick and move on is best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Sadly people think they're a lot bigger when they're sat in their tin tanks... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twin Turbo Jim Posted July 14, 2007 Share Posted July 14, 2007 Sadly people think they're a lot bigger when they're sat in their tin tanks... Not bigger than me in my bus but they still argue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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