boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 So to sum up, what you're saying is that the media themselves are the terrorists responsible for these attacks? If you believe that you are a greater fool than those committing the actual acts themselves. Or, perhaps, is it the EXTREME minority of weird/loner Islamists in our society that are responsible.... Hmm, take a little while to think about that and what YOU will do to help OUR society. (BTW, the same applies regardless of your colour or creed, I and most others honestly couldn't care). Im not saying the media are the only ones to blame, but you have to admit, they make alot of money out if it dont they? In the past, people kill for money dont they? Do you really think the government cares about you and me? Hounestly, do you really think they care if we live or die, in terms of our lives value? Do you really think Tony Blair and George Bush hounestly care about loss of human life. They are the king pins on top of the country...we are thier strategy game they play with. DO they care about soldiers lives? Do you think they really went to Iraq to protect the british public?? They have spent billions on the war, when they could have given saddam hussain a billion in return for him leaving power and exposing all his "WMD's", and could have saved alot of human life....but no they didnt care, they went head first in and killed anything in site...causing more war and more death than was there in the first place....and then you actually believe that they care about you and me in this country??? If you did then that would make you a greater fool than them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Beats me. It does tend to look like that though when you're claiming to know that what people said isn't what they really meant and to further claim that you know what it was they actually think. Ahh, you're having a dig at my post count. Bless. Argumentum ad personam, much? That should offend everyone. Views like that are not something I would want to be associated with. It's nothing to do with my point though, an entirely separate matter to you somehow knowing what people are really thinking. I think we should both agree to disagree. It's been fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Im not saying the media are the only ones to blame, but you have to admit, they make alot of money out if it dont they? In the past, people kill for money dont they? er yes, but I don't recall The Times ever killing anyone, or even the daily star for that matter. Do you really think the government cares about you and me? Hounestly, do you really think they care if we live or die, in terms of our lives value? Do you really think Tony Blair and George Bush hounestly care about loss of human life. They are the king pins on top of the country...we are thier strategy game they play with. DO they care about soldiers lives? Do you care if any white Christians are killed as a result of terrorclowns? I'm guessing from your posts not really. Do you think they really went to Iraq to protect the british public?? wait, wait... I agree with you They have spent billions on the war, when they could have given saddam hussain a billion in return for him leaving power and exposing all his "WMD's", and could have saved alot of human life....but no they didnt care, they went head first in and killed anything in site...causing more war and more death than was there in the first place....and then you actually believe that they care about you and me in this country??? If you did then that would make you a greater fool than them... no sir you are the greater fool. Here Saddam, have this billion dollars in return for you giving up your considerable wealth, power, and god like status over your people... Yeah I'm sure he'd accept the deal without a seconds thought. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Imi, Wkdtime and boombastic, other than the "burn the Mosques down" quote I have not seen anyone other than yourselves saying that all Muslims are terrorists. The majority of members on here want the people who are to blame brought to justice and punished to an extent that a deterrent is raised from all the destruction and disharmony. At this moment in time the cowards who are causing the trouble are Muslims, you can’t argue with that or defend it. And if you hold true this country and its way of life you should want these people found and dealt with so we can just get on with our lives. I am going to assume (the mother of all feck ups) that Uzthedentist is a Muslim and he is the only one who has expressed wishes that these bastards are brought down. Sir, if this is the case I salute you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 The majority of members on here want the people who are to blame brought to justice and punished to an extent that a deterrent is raised from all the destruction and disharmony. At this moment in time the cowards who are causing the trouble are Muslims, you can’t argue with that or defend it. And if you hold true this country and its way of life you should want these people found and dealt with so we can just get on with our lives. I am going to assume (the mother of all feck ups) that Uzthedentist is a Muslim and he is the only one who has expressed wishes that these bastards are brought down. Sir, if this is the case I salute you! In reply to your post, why dont you read the whole thread properly and have some grasp of what has been said and by whom, beacuse if you had then you would not have thought that Uzthedentist is the only 'Muslim' expressing his disgust at the attempted bombings. I'll refresh your memory shall I?, Post 88 When we see C***S that carry out these atrocities, we would like to do nothing better than to tourch the f***ers, but the misconecption can seem to be that we sympathise with them. Just to put you back on track, no ONE is disputing the fact that these would be bombers should be castrated, hung, stoned to death, if it were up to me, I would do so much worse to them and would make sure that they die slowly and painfully. Please read the post's properly before posting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrHanky Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I am going to assume (the mother of all feck ups) that Uzthedentist is a Muslim Im sorry to go off topic but it always surprises me that people remember this quote and therefore have had the misfortune of watching Under Siege 2 Back on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 er yes, but I don't recall The Times ever killing anyone, or even the daily star for that matter. Do you care if any white Christians are killed as a result of terrorclowns? I'm guessing from your posts not really. wait, wait... I agree with you no sir you are the greater fool. Here Saddam, have this billion dollars in return for you giving up your considerable wealth, power, and god like status over your people... Yeah I'm sure he'd accept the deal without a seconds thought. Thorin, dont ever try and twist my words. I never mentioned anything about religion or colour in that post..So why did you bring up the white christian dieing bullshit? Of course I care if anyone dies...part of my family is white and christian. Did I say anything to make you think otherwise?, have I mentioned anything about race or colour in my posts? If so where? Apart from that it seems like you read the news and believe everything they say...blinded to reality....the news influence war and fighting...but they are not the ones who cause it directly, its the people in power. You think the government are angel heros just because they have a posh accent and know how to use the vocabulary properly? They are the biggest murderers. As for the paying money to saddam...He was a corrupt leader who had no cause. He had a very western life in terms of possesions etc....War could well have been diverted..They could have done so much to avoid the war...but they didnt, they went guns first in. They didnt care about the british soldiers who went in, and they didnt care about iraqi civilians who went in. And the people who were trying to protect Iraq from the british invaders were labbeled as terrorists.....Tell me if the USA tried to invade England, you would fight for your freedom and country right?? Well how would you like it if the USA labbeled you a terrorist for doing that? That was thier excuse to get support and propoganda for going into IRaq with the public backing...its so obvious and clear. So many hundreds of thousands of Innocent Iraqi civilians have died in Iraq because of the war...more so than when Saddam was in power...and why are people dieing? For what exactly? Did they ask Uk and Usa to come in and kill them? Then you wonder why there is so much hatred towards the british government... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Wow, brainwashing is alive and well in this country it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Imi, Wkdtime and boombastic, other than the "burn the Mosques down" quote I have not seen anyone other than yourselves saying that all Muslims are terrorists. The majority of members on here want the people who are to blame brought to justice and punished to an extent that a deterrent is raised from all the destruction and disharmony. At this moment in time the cowards who are causing the trouble are Muslims, you can’t argue with that or defend it. And if you hold true this country and its way of life you should want these people found and dealt with so we can just get on with our lives. I am going to assume (the mother of all feck ups) that Uzthedentist is a Muslim and he is the only one who has expressed wishes that these bastards are brought down. Sir, if this is the case I salute you! When did I say muslims are terrorists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Wow, brainwashing is alive and well in this country it seems. Indeed. How many hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's have been killed as a result of "the war" then exactly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Indeed. How many hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqi's have been killed as a result of "the war" then exactly? My best friends uncle was the president of Iraq after Saddam Hussain was taken out of power, he was a peaceful person with interests for Iraq...The US government killed him. Half of my friends family in IRaq has been killed. My ex girlfriends family in Iraq have had alot of people killed. I dont know every single person who died in IRaq obviously, but I do know alot or people who are directly affected. My sources of the amount of people dieing in Iraq are from Iraqis, your source are most likely the Media... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 My best friends uncle was the president of Iraq after Saddam Hussain was taken out of power, he was a peaceful person with interests for Iraq...The US government killed him. Half of my friends family in IRaq has been killed. My ex girlfriends family in Iraq have had alot of people killed. I dont know every single person who died in IRaq obviously, but I do know alot or people who are directly affected. My sources of the amount of people dieing in Iraq are from Iraqis, your source are most likely the Media... Riiiiiight. I'm sorry your postings continue to be more clown like with every word you type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Riiiiiight. I'm sorry your postings continue to be more clown like with every word you type. whats so clown about what I have said? Its reality, you lot laugh at me and think im brainwashed...but by who? No one was ever tried brainwashing me... Do you even know what brainwashing is? Because thats exactly what newspapers/news are doing right now to everyone who watches. Its a fact, ask anyone who has studied the media, I have.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 whats so clown about what I have said? http://www.geekroar.com/leopoldo/wp-content/thai.bkk.ronaldmcdonald.jpg Ronald is just so clown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 keep going folks, it makes interesting reading... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 keep going folks, it makes interesting reading... As does your valuable input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 http://www.geekroar.com/leopoldo/wp-content/thai.bkk.ronaldmcdonald.jpg Ronald is just so clown. Im not even gonna bother....when it comes to Supra's and cars you know alot and have helped me with alot...when it comes to life and reality thats something else...But i dont blame you...most people would not be able to handle reality, thats why they trap themselves in thier own world and believe only what they want to believe... its not a bad idea when you see the amount of things going on in the world today..but thats life for you....its always been like that...200 years ago in europe the same type of thing was going on, death death death/power power power / money money money... like it was 1000 years ago, 3000 years ago etc etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Wkd, sorry i missed that quote. Feel free to stand proud next to the dentist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 No one was ever tried brainwashing me... Do you even know what brainwashing is? Because thats exactly what newspapers/news are doing right now to everyone who watches. Its a fact, ask anyone who has studied the media, I have.. Do you wear a helmet crafted from tinfoil? Most normal people have the ability to digest information and form their own opinions based on it, if they feel the information presented has a strong bias they can then do research in other areas to balance this out and gain additional knowledge. Obviously the media in UK is going to have a bias towards the UK side of the story, would you expect otherwise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Im not even gonna bother....when it comes to Supra's and cars you know alot and have helped me with alot...when it comes to life and reality thats something else...But i dont blame you...most people would not be able to handle reality, thats why they trap themselves in thier own world and believe only what they want to believe... its not a bad idea when you see the amount of things going on in the world today..but thats life for you....its always been like that...200 years ago in europe the same type of thing was going on, death death death/power power power / money money money... like it was 1000 years ago, 3000 years ago etc etc It's all just a glitch in the matrix. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 As does your valuable input. i can only hope it's as good as yours when i get to 16,000 posts.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I always seem to get told I must read the Daily Mail or something when I mention my views, bit odd that people assume I've got my own opinions from the media (which I avoid BTW). I need to read the koran (well, the translation at least), because a lot of this thread seems to be the difference between every day muslims and extremists - I'd like to know what the 'book' actually says about the religion, whether it's taken out of context by the bombers or whether the 'normal' muslims just don't put too much stock into it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 i need a poo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I always seem to get told I must read the Daily Mail or something when I mention my views, bit odd that people assume I've got my own opinions from the media (which I avoid BTW). I need to read the koran (well, the translation at least), because a lot of this thread seems to be the difference between every day muslims and extremists - I'd like to know what the 'book' actually says about the religion, whether it's taken out of context by the bombers or whether the 'normal' muslims just don't put too much stock into it. Great post dude!!! it's really the only way to make your mind up about anything... 1st hand research! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 i need a poo theres a great little website which allows you to time how long it takes to poo during work hours - which in turn lets you know how much money you've made for just giving a sh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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