Guest Geneb Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 it sure wasn't a jock who did it cus there way too tight with there money to waste that much fuel. but they wanna hang the bastards who did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 If someone wants to pack a car or thmeselves full of homemade explosives and blow the shit out of people there isn't much the authorities can do to stop it happening. This issue is only going to get worse over the coming years. It won't be long before we are in a situation like Iraq, Israel or Northern Ireland. Why does religion always lead to violence? ALL communities need to work together on this one!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 If someone wants to pack a car or thmeselves full of homemade explosives and blow the shit out of people there isn't much the authorities can do to stop it happening. This issue is only going to get worse over the coming years. It won't be long before we are in a situation like Iraq, Israel or Northern Ireland. Why does religion always lead to violence? ALL communities need to work together on this one!! Spot on! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourniquet Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 You know its funny......in a way alot of "normal" people are "brainwashed" just like the "terrorists" supposidly are..... Heres a reality check - Potential terrorists are brainwashed to think they go to heaven to go and kill everyone.... The media (news / newpapers) try and brainwash its viewers to believe whatever they want them to believe... News sells, terrorism sells, war sells, "Islamic extremist" sells....imagine there was no wars and no "terrorism", the media would not make as much money and the world leaders would get bored....Its all made up drama on both sides, its a big circle that goes round and round...and its the way things have been for thousands of years...Theres people on top the whole drama making alot of money... So to sum up, what you're saying is that the media themselves are the terrorists responsible for these attacks? If you believe that you are a greater fool than those committing the actual acts themselves. Or, perhaps, is it the EXTREME minority of weird/loner Islamists in our society that are responsible.... Hmm, take a little while to think about that and what YOU will do to help OUR society. (BTW, the same applies regardless of your colour or creed, I and most others honestly couldn't care). Well Mr Boombastictiger I'm surprised by your response or rather theory on the whole matter. Let me point u towards a Mr Hassan Butt speaking in the Daily Mirror today on page 6. He is a former Islamic scum bag c**t that IMO still deserves an SA80 unloaded in his and his families face at point blank range. Anyway, as a former recruiter for Al-C*nteda he obviously knows his stuff from first hand experience. I can't be arsed to write the whole thing but it sums up as this : Western Foreign policy IS NOT to blame. It is an ancient ideology which led radical Muslims to rage their own war on the west to revoultionise the world to an Islamic state of justice. He goes on to say he and his cronies would laugh when people would say 9/11 and 7/7 was due to foreign policy. By blaming the government they would be doing the Muslims work for them, helping to draw away any critical examination from THE REAL engine of their violence :- ISLAMIC THEOLOGY. He's sure the failed goons are his goons because the're so reminicent of other plots by them. So to sum up....actualy I can't be fucked with the time ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzthedentist Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 the guys who did that deffo need to be shot, makes life bloody difficult for the rest of us trying to fit in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourniquet Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 the guys who did that deffo need to be shot, makes life bloody difficult for the rest of us trying to fit in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Originally Posted by wkdtime So far the point that seem's be floating accross by some members is that all muslims are terrorist's (But 'oh no' they don't quite say it like that...but none the less it's quite obvious what they actually mean). It must be great knowing what people really meant when that isn't what they said. It's seems like you're looking for a chance to be offended. And that, sir, is a VERY Muslim trait, in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzthedentist Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 It must be great knowing what people really meant when that isn't what they said. It's seems like you're looking for a chance to be offended. And that, sir, is a VERY Muslim trait, in my opinion. and let me guess you know loads right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 and let me guess you know loads right Yes. So what? Did you have a point? You seem to have forgotten to make it. edit, Did you mean loads of muslims? In that case no, I don't know any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzthedentist Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 point made Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Well it's a crap point then. I don't need to know muslims IRL to know recognize when one is looking to for something to be offended about on here, or elsewhere on the net/tv/other media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supradan Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Personely i think the "racisism" card is banded around far too frequently and unfoundedly.Most of the threads that have offended people are just peoples points of view,you dont see me getting all upset when someone calls me a tractor driving ,pasty eating carrot muncher:) but isnt that the same generalisation of people that has been voiced in this thread.I suppose its because i am a white athiest and have no interest in religion at all that any comment we have to make is immediatley condemed as "Racism" I have no malice towards any races or religions but i do get very upset and angry when i see "so called british muslims" burning union jacks and inciting racial hatred. Thats my rant over lol (This thread is not based on any real life charactors and any simillarities are purely coincidental) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Is your skepticism caused by your beliefs, or for some other reason? Why do you feel that there is some great conspiracy? Lets just say that I don't trust these politicians, especially after what they have done in Iraq and Afghanistan over the past recent years. The whole situation stinks. They deliberately (IMO) refrain from solving disputed territories in the middle east in order to keep the Iron Hot. Don't think they want to maintain a peaceful world to be honest and that article sheds a reason why. Religion is an excuse and unfortunately it plays into their propaganda and exploitation in order to justify the means that they are prepared to go through in order to reach their goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 The world will never be free of religion and never free of terrorism despite which avenue the politicians take. In 25 years time we'll find out the real reason for Iraq and Afghanistan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 It's seems like you're looking for a chance to be offended. And that, sir, is a VERY Muslim trait, in my opinion. Why would I want to do that Jake? Especially here on a forum? Maybe I type before I truly think about what im typing, I'm sure 20000 post's later ill have the knack to do so like some. You know what Jake? You're right, I AM looking to get offended, post's like... "they should burn all mosques in this country"- (View's expressed by a member in a previous thread) ...Shouldn't really offend me should they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 . Religion is an excuse and unfortunately it plays into their propaganda and exploitation in order to justify the means that they are prepared to go through in order to reach their goals. Whose propaganda though? Whose exploitation? The Wests' or the propaganda being used by some Islamic extremists, and the exploitation of young idealistic men? It works both ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 It works both ways. Indeed - a marriage made in hell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourniquet Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Personely i think the "racisism" card is banded around far too frequently and unfoundedly.Most of the threads that have offended people are just peoples points of view,you dont see me getting all upset when someone calls me a tractor driving ,pasty eating carrot muncher:) but isnt that the same generalisation of people that has been voiced in this thread.I suppose its because i am a white athiest and have no interest in religion at all that any comment we have to make is immediatley condemed as "Racism" I have no malice towards any races or religions but i do get very upset and angry when i see "so called british muslims" burning union jacks and inciting racial hatred. Thats my rant over lol (This thread is not based on any real life charactors and any simillarities are purely coincidental) I agree with this post. I also hate seeing brit musy's burning the jack etc so Imi as u asked earlier - how can we identify these c*nts I have a plan..... peep this it's fool proof:- We draw more cartoons of Mr Mohammed and when the community unites in uproar and waves banners demanding non believers to be decapitated and burning the Jack we'll know who they are. We can then save tax payers money and hose them down with automatic fire and skip the court bit. I must say, I've had two posts in this already where I actualy made some good points and maybe a few truths which is bloody good for me - and not once was it quoted or pulled apart for bad spelling etc. Bit offended actually, it's sorely missed. For those who missed it I feel the need to re-post. 2 shakes..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I agree with this post. I also hate seeing brit musy's burning the jack etc so Imi as u asked earlier - how can we identify these c*nts I have a plan..... peep this it's fool proof:- We draw more cartoons of Mr Mohammed and when the community unites in uproar and waves banners demanding non believers to be decapitated and burning the Jack we'll know who they are. We can then save tax payers money and hose them down with automatic fire and skip the court bit. I must say, I've had two posts in this already where I actualy made some good points and maybe a few truths which is bloody good for me - and not once was it quoted or pulled apart for bad spelling etc. Bit offended actually, it's sorely missed. For those who missed it I feel the need to re-post. 2 shakes..... How old are you btw? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 We draw more cartoons of Mr Mohammed and when the community unites in uproar and waves banners demanding non believers to be decapitated and burning the Jack we'll know who they are. We can then save tax payers money and hose them down with automatic fire and skip the court bit. ..... You are stepping VERY close to the line here. Anymore of that and you'll be removed from the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourniquet Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Well Mr Boombastictiger I'm surprised by your response or rather theory on the whole matter. Let me point u towards a Mr Hassan Butt speaking in the Daily Mirror today on page 6. He is a former Islamic scum bag c**t that IMO still deserves an SA80 unloaded in his and his families face at point blank range. Anyway, as a former recruiter for Al-C*nteda he obviously knows his stuff from first hand experience. I can't be arsed to write the whole thing but it sums up as this : Western Foreign policy IS NOT to blame. It is an ancient ideology which led radical Muslims to rage their own war on the west to revoultionise the world to an Islamic state of justice. He goes on to say he and his cronies would laugh when people would say 9/11 and 7/7 was due to foreign policy. By blaming the government they would be doing the Muslims work for them, helping to draw away any critical examination from THE REAL engine of their violence :- ISLAMIC THEOLOGY. He's sure the failed goons are his goons because the're so reminicent of other plots by them. So to sum up....actualy I can't be fucked with the time ! Damn it I was wrong again ! Only 1 decent post ! D'oh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourniquet Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 How old are you btw? 26 dude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uzthedentist Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Well it's a crap point then. I don't need to know muslims IRL to know recognize when one is looking to for something to be offended about on here, or elsewhere on the net/tv/other media. clearly not a crap point. If you never meet a muslim and then comment on what you THINK they get offended by by the media (probably daily mail) its about as intelligent as me asking a chav what he thinks the long term effects will be on the country if the FTSE has gone down 2 points Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tourniquet Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 You are stepping VERY close to the line here. Anymore of that and you'll be removed from the discussion. Apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Why would I want to do that Jake? Especially here on a forum? Beats me. It does tend to look like that though when you're claiming to know that what people said isn't what they really meant and to further claim that you know what it was they actually think. Maybe I type before I truly think about what im typing, I'm sure 20000 post's later ill have the knack to do so like some. Ahh, you're having a dig at my post count. Bless. Argumentum ad personam, much? You know what Jake? You're right, I AM looking to get offended, post's like... "they should burn all mosques in this country"- (View's expressed by a member in a previous thread) ...Shouldn't really offend me should they? That should offend everyone. Views like that are not something I would want to be associated with. It's nothing to do with my point though, an entirely separate matter to you somehow knowing what people are really thinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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