ECK Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 Surely thats "your butt" too! Here endeth the lesson....... H. no im not into anything like that:tongue: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 My humble apologies...you have clearly made your point with the above. There are no terrorists in this Country. *Whoosh* That was the sound of everyone's comments going over your head... Anyway, getting back at the topic at hand, I think it's essential that the Muslim community address the issue of extremism within the local communities. It's clear that that these recent semi-amateur attacks are not seriously coordinated (regardless of what the media/politicians claim). As with the July attacks these are extremists/weirdo’s/losers that clearly have nothing to live for apart from a blind belief in what they are doing, Allah will gain them entry to heaven. Erm, yeah right.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 *Whoosh* That was the sound of everyone's comments going over your head... Anyway, getting back at the topic at hand, I think it's essential that the Muslim community address the issue of extremism within the local communities. It's clear that that these recent semi-amateur attacks are not seriously coordinated (regardless of what the media/politicians claim). As with the July attacks these are extremists/weirdo’s/losers that clearly have nothing to live for apart from a blind belief in what they are doing, Allah will gain them entry to heaven. Erm, yeah right.... I agree, and thankfully they weren't well organised cos if those car bombs had of blown, it would have been worse than 7/7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 *Whoosh* That was the sound of everyone's comments going over your head... Anyway, getting back at the topic at hand, I think it's essential that the Muslim community address the issue of extremism within the local communities. It's clear that that these recent semi-amateur attacks are not seriously coordinated (regardless of what the media/politicians claim). As with the July attacks these are extremists/weirdo’s/losers that clearly have nothing to live for apart from a blind belief in what they are doing, Allah will gain them entry to heaven. Erm, yeah right.... You know its funny......in a way alot of "normal" people are "brainwashed" just like the "terrorists" supposidly are..... Heres a reality check - Potential terrorists are brainwashed to think they go to heaven to go and kill everyone.... The media (news / newpapers) try and brainwash its viewers to believe whatever they want them to believe... News sells, terrorism sells, war sells, "Islamic extremist" sells....imagine there was no wars and no "terrorism", the media would not make as much money and the world leaders would get bored....Its all made up drama on both sides, its a big circle that goes round and round...and its the way things have been for thousands of years...Theres people on top the whole drama making alot of money... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 You know its funny......in a way alot of "normal" people are "brainwashed" just like the "terrorists" supposidly are..... Heres a reality check - Potential terrorists are brainwashed to think they go to heaven to go and kill everyone.... The media (news / newpapers) try and brainwash its viewers to believe whatever they want them to believe... News sells, terrorism sells, war sells, "Islamic extremist" sells....imagine there was no wars and no "terrorism", the media would not make as much money and the world leaders would get bored....Its all made up drama on both sides, its a big circle that goes round and round...and its the way things have been for thousands of years...Theres people on top the whole drama making alot of money... So to sum up, what you're saying is that the media themselves are the terrorists responsible for these attacks? If you believe that you are a greater fool than those committing the actual acts themselves. Or, perhaps, is it the EXTREME minority of weird/loner Islamists in our society that are responsible.... Hmm, take a little while to think about that and what YOU will do to help OUR society. (BTW, the same applies regardless of your colour or creed, I and most others honestly couldn't care). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 We've been lucky so far that these Islamic extremist idiots haven't had the brains to organize themselves properly. It seems like they usually mess it up in some way with the preparation or execution. I suppose if you're relying on somebody that's stupid enough to believe the '50 Virgins Are Waiting For You In Heaven' fairytale then you're likely to have a few technical issues. Somebody was saying the other day about those guys that blew themselves up on 7/7, if somebody had gone round to their families and slaughtered the lot of them in retaliation/revenge it might well put off any more of them doing the same. It seemed rather over the top to me but I could almost imagine it happening if things go on like they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted July 1, 2007 Share Posted July 1, 2007 We've been lucky so far that these Islamic extremist idiots haven't had the brains to organize themselves properly. It seems like they usually mess it up in some way with the preparation or execution. I suppose if you're relying on somebody that's stupid enough to believe the '50 Virgins Are Waiting For You In Heaven' fairytale then you're likely to have a few technical issues. Somebody was saying the other day about those guys that blew themselves up on 7/7, if somebody had gone round to their families and slaughtered the lot of them in retaliation/revenge it might well put off any more of them doing the same. It seemed rather over the top to me but I could almost imagine it happening if things go on like they are. Going back to topic in my original quote. This is what makes me wonder, these attempts are exactly that, they aren't organized or overly successful either. They would provide enough of a public perception to allow military action and a heightened state without having to cause a lot of damage. This is more of a conspiracy theory than based on anything fact as I said. Disclaimer : This is an idea based on own cynical nature and is not reflective of any prejudice/hatred/love/emotion towards any person/race/culture/creed/personaility. As far as the religious bit goes, I'll stick to my intepretation that religion is crafted by those who wish to achieve their own mortal goals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 As far as the religious bit goes, I'll stick to my intepretation that religion is crafted by those who wish to achieve their own mortal goals. Far too deep for 00:58!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 That was the point I was making - I know you didn't. Charlotte agreed with you - as did Imi. But because Imi is muslim (I assume), suddenly people interpret his comment as something different. Indeed I am sir and thx for your support. Ye kick terrorist out, build up wall, stop terrorists from gettin back in And how exactly would you identify them? Its a shame that WE ALL find ourselves living in these hostile times and I really dont see a solution to the problem, if anything it is getting worse. Now perhaps proactive measures are taking place in the background to keep things in check, but it is sad to see that the public view is one of hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Indeed I am sir and thx for your support. And how exactly would you identify them? It was meant to be tongue in cheek, you don't seriously expect Hadrians wall to be rebuilt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Hysteria, great album by Def Leppard but not how i would describe the publics reaction to these events. Just to go over my stance before i called any funny names i think the guilty parties, whoever they maybe, should be deported. And before (my second of the day) people say that these people are second or third generation British i would suggest that they are not embracing our way of life but that of Islam and therefore ship 'em that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Isn't it a bit odd how suddenly a new PM is in power, and there is a sudden uprise of attacks... Ha ha... especially inept and clumsy attempts Funny they didn't find a copy of the Koran at the back of the car, like they did in the States. Maybe next time. Glasgow airport? Give us a break.... ---I'm sure the extra legislation will sail through parliament--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 .......not embracing our way of life but that of Islam and therefore ship 'em that way. Really now.....you just don't get it Regarding your comment on deporting them....I would prefer if they were taken into custody and questioned so that if there is a network then it can be unfoiled....which is exactly what is happening Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Somebody was saying the other day about those guys that blew themselves up on 7/7, if somebody had gone round to their families and slaughtered the lot of them in retaliation/revenge it might well put off any more of them doing the same. It seemed rather over the top to me but I could almost imagine it happening if things go on like they are. Agreed - way over the top for our society. However, the ironic thing is that it's exactly the sort of thing that would have happened under some of the Islamic regimes (and Saddam). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 As far as the religious bit goes, I'll stick to my intepretation that religion is crafted by those who wish to achieve their own mortal goals. Couldnt be truer words said. I think the British public have taken the situation quite well, and have been very tolerant of the fact that there are muslim extremists among our communities operating/influencing/attacking innocent individuals. The alternative... To burn effigies of allah and his clan start a public riot e.t.c as they do in the vast islamic countries, which is one of the reasons I suspect they immigrate to this country. I am glad the above has not happened but how much more does the country have to take before it does become militant, religion seems to be at the heart of most wars dating back centuries, without it the world would a less interesting but more peaceful place. I have many muslim friends, but they would still be my friends regardless of their religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/29/more_fear_biscuits_please/ the above just about summed it up for me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 ...Somebody was saying the other day about those guys that blew themselves up on 7/7, if somebody had gone round to their families and slaughtered the lot of them in retaliation/revenge it might well put off any more of them doing the same. ... No need for slaughtering at all. Even better, deport the whole cluster of relatives and confiscate their money/belongings/properties/accounts so the victims can be compensated. It would create a strong deterrent for further wannabes, too. HOWEVER, this could bring up inquiries and judicial reviews that would unearth things that should stay buried. What if those people were found to be operating under the instructions of shady government-run agencies? Why on earth would these people risk endagering their own families and communities and risk being summarily thown out of the host country? Wouldn't their own friends/relatives kick their ass if they suspected anything? Questions, questions... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Regarding your comment on deporting them....I would prefer if they were taken into custody and questioned so that if there is a network then it can be unfoiled....which is exactly what is happening Ok ok ok, question them, then deport them! Better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 http://www.sniffpetrol.com/2007/07/01/terrorist-hunt-latest/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 http://www.theregister.co.uk/2007/06/29/more_fear_biscuits_please/ the above just about summed it up for me... Good Find... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 http://www.sniffpetrol.com/2007/07/01/terrorist-hunt-latest/ PMSL...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I have many muslim friends, but they would still be my friends regardless of their religion. You'll find that most of us muslims are like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I have many Christian friends... if they were jewish though I'd hunt them down and kill them and their families. Praise Jebus! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 I have many Christian friends... if they were jewish though I'd hunt them down and kill them and their families. Praise Jebus! HUH....even if this was a joke, its a pretty sick one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 HUH....even if this was a joke, its a pretty sick one. Indeed. It was more of a response the wkdtime's post, saying that "most of us muslims are like that". I would suggest most of any other religion are like that too, it's kinda missing the point though. Not that I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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