Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 That guy looked smacked off his tits!! He is from Glasgow... Racist!!!2! /vbb/images/smilies/bbcode_shock.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 If they wanted to do that, the easiest way would just be to pull out and leave the factions to it. Then walk back in afterwards to pick up the pieces (and control). For goodness sake, why can't these idiots see that the coalition are trying to bring a bit of stability to the place? All we're doing now is trying to keep the peace between 2 naturally warring factions. They've been at it for years. Far longer than the Protestants and Catholics in Ireland and look how long it took for them to come to terms. I don't think that we'll ever be in a position where we can say that there is peace in ththe middle east though - it's just not in their nature. So do we pull out and leave them to it? If we do pull out, do you think for one minute that the attacks will stop? Dream on if you do son. BTW, I totally agree that we should NOT HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE (clear enough for you?). Anyway, I'm pulling out of this one. Otherwise I can see we'll be here until you go back to school in Sept. A bit of stability?? that is the dumbest thing i have heard in a long time. They have done the opposite..caused instability....More deaths than when Saddam was in power, more hatred, more power struggle...Keeping the peace?? what are you a UN peacekeeper or something? Their presence there is causing so many problems. So its ok to kill innocent civilians "by accident" to keep the peace? Is that what your saying? because that is what is happaning...they should not be there in the first place...Iraq has thier culture, tradition, and religion and way of following thier religion, the western way is almost opposite in many ways, yet the us and uk think they can FORCE it on the people there... The 2 factions have not been going at it, who told you that? lots of my friends are shia and sunni, im suni, and everyone gets on fine...lots of my friends are shia and from iraq and lots are kurdish, and thier families say that there was no problem in Iraq before between shia, sunni and kurds...there was no fighting like there is now..certain incidents happened in the past that alot were hurt by, but nothing compared to what has happaned now. Its so easy for you to sit there and say "yeah they are trying to bring stability, people are dieing but its for a good cause"...but look a few bombs happan at home in the uk and everyone goes crazy...Imagine if Iraq came to try and invade the uk to impose thier way of thinking....to sort out the problems in the uk, make it a better place and get rid of the nukes and wmd's that we possess...you would never ever be able to imagine it to yourself, but its ok for it to happan to other people...then you wander why theres so much hate and hardly any support for the government from muslims..... Before all the wars in afghan and iraq, england was not a target, people used to look up to england as being tolerant and supporting. But then when the government sent troops to iraq and afgan, they caused bad blood. They didnt need to go, they solved no problems going there, they wasted money, and they killed alot of muslims for nothing, alot of whome have family in the uk. Take the uk out of Iraq and afgan and you will ease alot of tension in the uk... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 A bit of stability?? that is the dumbest thing i have heard in a long time. They have done the opposite..caused instability....More deaths than when Saddam was in power, more hatred, more power struggle...Keeping the peace?? what are you a UN peacekeeper or something? Their presence there is causing so many problems. So its ok to kill innocent civilians "by accident" to keep the peace? Is that what your saying? because that is what is happaning...they should not be there in the first place...Iraq has thier culture, tradition, and religion and way of following thier religion, the western way is almost opposite in many ways, yet the us and uk think they can FORCE it on the people there... The 2 factions have not been going at it, who told you that? lots of my friends are shia and sunni, im suni, and everyone gets on fine...lots of my friends are shia and from iraq and lots are kurdish, and thier families say that there was no problem in Iraq before between shia, sunni and kurds...there was no fighting like there is now..certain incidents happened in the past that alot were hurt by, but nothing compared to what has happaned now. Its so easy for you to sit there and say "yeah they are trying to bring stability, people are dieing but its for a good cause"...but look a few bombs happan at home in the uk and everyone goes crazy...Imagine if Iraq came to try and invade the uk to impose thier way of thinking....to sort out the problems in the uk, make it a better place and get rid of the nukes and wmd's that we possess...you would never ever be able to imagine it to yourself, but its ok for it to happan to other people...then you wander why theres so much hate and hardly any support for the government from muslims..... Before all the wars in afghan and iraq, england was not a target, people used to look up to england as being tolerant and supporting. But then when the government sent troops to iraq and afgan, they caused bad blood. They didnt need to go, they solved no problems going there, they wasted money, and they killed alot of muslims for nothing, alot of whome have family in the uk. Take the uk out of Iraq and afgan and you will ease alot of tension... People are not even muslims and they are trying to give advice opinions on what they dont understand..... In Your Opinion!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 A bit of stability?? that is the dumbest thing i have heard in a long time. They have done the opposite..caused instability....More deaths than when Saddam was in power, more hatred, more power struggle...Keeping the peace?? what are you a UN peacekeeper or something? Their presence there is causing so many problems. So its ok to kill innocent civilians "by accident" to keep the peace? Is that what your saying? because that is what is happaning...they should not be there in the first place...Iraq has thier culture, tradition, and religion and way of following thier religion, the western way is almost opposite in many ways, yet the us and uk think they can FORCE it on the people there... The 2 factions have not been going at it, who told you that? lots of my friends are shia and sunni, im suni, and everyone gets on fine...lots of my friends are shia and from iraq and lots are kurdish, and thier families say that there was no problem in Iraq before between shia, sunni and kurds...there was no fighting like there is now..certain incidents happened in the past that alot were hurt by, but nothing compared to what has happaned now. Its so easy for you to sit there and say "yeah they are trying to bring stability, people are dieing but its for a good cause"...but look a few bombs happan at home in the uk and everyone goes crazy...Imagine if Iraq came to try and invade the uk to impose thier way of thinking....to sort out the problems in the uk, make it a better place and get rid of the nukes and wmd's that we possess...you would never ever be able to imagine it to yourself, but its ok for it to happan to other people...then you wander why theres so much hate and hardly any support for the government from muslims..... Before all the wars in afghan and iraq, england was not a target, people used to look up to england as being tolerant and supporting. But then when the government sent troops to iraq and afgan, they caused bad blood. They didnt need to go, they solved no problems going there, they wasted money, and they killed alot of muslims for nothing, alot of whome have family in the uk. Take the uk out of Iraq and afgan and you will ease alot of tension... So everything was great before the US/UK "invasion" was it? Death to the infidels then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 It's a bit like WW2: America: We're staying out of this war, nothing to do with us! Japan: Attack pearl harbour! America: Right then - NUKE. Japan: Is that the best you've got, continue attacking! America: NUKE. Japan: OK we give up. Us westerners don't take kindly to being bombed and shit! *takes tongue out of cheek* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 ..Im a Muslim and I KNOW that nowhere in the Koran does it say anything about killing random people .quote] Indeed it does not. It is only infidels. The trouble is how convenient it is to label anyone as an infidel;) Not dissimilar to the bullshoite terms of the 'Coallition of the Willing': insurgent, illegal combatant, terrorist etc. People fighting for some rights on their own land are labelled as insurgents and are therefore fair targets. Both sides are beating around the bush and refuse to call a spade a spade. But what goes round, comes round. You live by the sword, you die by the sword. Its true, i see that point, iv heard alot of people use words out of context before, but to actually say everyone is an infidel is just stupid. Let me ask you a question... If the police came to you right now, with government, MI5 and media officials and said "you either do as we say or else your entire family will die", what would you do? Who would you go to? Who would you report it to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Its true, i see that point, iv heard alot of people use words out of context before, but to actually say everyone is an infidel is just stupid. Let me ask you a question... If the police came to you right now, with government, MI5 and media officials and said "you either do as we say or else your entire family will die", what would you do? Who would you go to? Who would you report it to? FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 In Your Opinion!! yea it is my opinion..everyone has experiences and meets people. I happan to know alot of different types of muslims and people, some of whome are related and affected to the war in iraq etc etc, I know alot of different types of people who have all types of opinions and influence on world affairs. Through what iv seen, heard and read iv got my own opinion on what is going on, that i believe is the truth. IM sharing it on here just like everyone else is sharing thiers on here. If im wrong about what im saying i will admit error and accept the truth... im not forcing myself to believe anything... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 If the police came to you right now, with government, MI5 and media officials and said "you either do as we say or else your entire family will die", what would you do? Who would you go to? Who would you report it to? I'd probably set my Liger on them and maybe show them some nunchuck moves before getting in my rocket and flying to the planet whathasthisgottodowithanything. Why do you ask? (In reality I'd probably give them a car and then spend the next month waiting for some money) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 just passing through again:innocent: very educational topic:rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 If the police came to you right now, with government, MI5 and media officials and said "you either do as we say or else your entire family will die", what would you do? Who would you go to? Who would you report it to? Dude, you've completely lost the plot now. Please keep going though, it's hysterical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I'd probably set my Liger on them and maybe show them some nunchuck moves before getting in my rocket and flying to the planet whathasthisgottodowithanything. Why do you ask? (In reality I'd probably give them a car and then spend the next month waiting for some money) I ask because that type of thing goes on in all countries... in other countries it happans to suicide bombers. In palistine it happans in a different way where the bombers families are supported financially if they blow themselves up from the military groups. In america with cia and fbi they threaten alot of people and blackmail them, with al sorts of threats said to off been made. What makes you think that it cant happan here in the uk? What makes you think that the people in power cant/ wont do it? Ok fair enough, there are alot of crazy muslims out there who are very corrupt, but there are also alot of other people out there who hate muslims and would do anything to get rid of them and/or give a bad name.. It goes alot deeper than that aswell. You hear all the time about people getting brainwashed in mosques etc, but you have to look at the people who are targeted. Alot of them dont have much of a social life, they dont have alot of friends...alot of thyem have had alot of racial abuse and have been bullied alot....when someone comes along and makes them think they are going to heaven with beatutiful girls next to them if they kill themselves, it will make them feel like a hero because they have such bad lives to start with. Its the one chance they have to shine. I men im from london, and people down here are quite clicked on and clued up when it comes to life and issues...but apparently alot of these "extremists" as they like to call them come from up north, where the muslims ill admit are a bit backwards. I guess the culture is a bit different in north and south but I think a big way to help potential terrorists is for other muslims and people to accept them and support them more so that they are not so dumb when it comes to people trying to brainwash them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I believe you bbt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 there are alot of crazy muslims out there who are very corrupt, but there are also alot of other people out there who hate muslims and would do anything to get rid of them and/or give a bad name.. Give them a bad name?! Those pesky muslims are doing a fine job of giving themselves a bad name by keep trying to blow us up. Threats like this:Take the uk out of Iraq and afgan and you will ease alot of tension in the uk... doesn't endear them to most of the indigenous Brit population either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz1 Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I ask because that type of thing goes on in all countries... in other countries it happans to suicide bombers. In palistine it happans in a different way where the bombers families are supported financially if they blow themselves up from the military groups. In america with cia and fbi they threaten alot of people and blackmail them, with al sorts of threats said to off been made. What makes you think that it cant happan here in the uk? What makes you think that the people in power cant/ wont do it? Ok fair enough, there are alot of crazy muslims out there who are very corrupt, but there are also alot of other people out there who hate muslims and would do anything to get rid of them and/or give a bad name.. It goes alot deeper than that aswell. You hear all the time about people getting brainwashed in mosques etc, but you have to look at the people who are targeted. Alot of them dont have much of a social life, they dont have alot of friends...alot of thyem have had alot of racial abuse and have been bullied alot....when someone comes along and makes them think they are going to heaven with beatutiful girls next to them if they kill themselves, it will make them feel like a hero because they have such bad lives to start with. You hear all the time about people getting brainwashed in mosques etc, but you have to look at the people who are targeted. Alot of them dont have much of a social life, they dont have alot of friends...alot of thyem have had alot of racial abuse and have been bullied alot....when someone comes along and makes them think they are going to heaven with beatutiful girls next to them if they kill themselves, it will make them feel like a hero because they have such bad lives to start with. :(i do agree with that statement:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Give them a bad name?! Those pesky muslims are doing a fine job of giving themselves a bad name by keep trying to blow us up. Threats like this: doesn't endear them to most of the indigenous Brit population either. Jake its obvious you dont like muslims....you dont like me...thats cool....but "those" muslims are not real muslims....believe or dont believe me its ur choice ur life no one will benefit or loose anything. They are just using islam as a way to give themselves an excuse to try and be a hero and sound good and scare people. Those people have targetted muslims just as much as they have targeted everyone else...that says alot about what they believe in..alot of people have hate in them...so much hate that builds up through stress and depression of life.. The hate is targeted at life but theres nothing to focus on, so when someone pounces on that and gives them sometime else to target on and focus they seize it and hold on to it...alot of people turn to suicide and killing themselves, or suicide packts, but when people with some power or authority come along and make you feel like a hero if u blow urself up and kill as many peple by shouting religious chants with the reward of everything you want....... well its a bit like a film.... Its a case of helping the people targeted... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Jake its obvious you dont like muslims.... I don't like the ones that try to kill my countrymen. I don't like the ones that don't condemn the ones that do. Other than that it's a matter of indifference to me what religion a person subscribes to. Personally I dislike all religions for the control they assert over their followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boombastictiger Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I don't like the ones that try to kill my countrymen. I don't like the ones that don't condemn the ones that do. Other than that it's a matter of indifference to me what religion a person subscribes to. Personally I dislike all religions for the control they assert over their followers. I agree with you.. I dont like anyone who will kill my fellow countrymen...and i dont like the ones who dont condemn them. For me its 2 fold, because not only do i dislike them for the principles, but also because they cause problems for me, my family and give me and my beliefs a bad name when they shoudlnt. When it comes to religion im a muslim and I have my beliefs, you have yours as does everyone...in england people can believe what they want...These people who are going round trying to kill people they may believe in god i cant question that, but they are not doing anything islamic. Its like a christian running round with a bomb on him saying "I WILL KILL ALL YOU ADULTERERS FOR COMMITING SIN" and then blowing himself up killing everyone including people who are still a virgin, kids etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Yes, it is rather like a Christian doing that. Doesn't happen though, does it. I just wish it didn't happen at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Its like a christian running round with a bomb on him saying "I WILL KILL ALL YOU ADULTERERS FOR COMMITING SIN" and then blowing himself up killing everyone including people who are still a virgin, kids etc.. The big difference being that this doesn't happen on an almost daily basis despite there being over 2 billion of the buggers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I agree with you.. I dont like anyone who will kill my fellow countrymen...and i dont like the ones who dont condemn them. For me its 2 fold, because not only do i dislike them for the principles, but also because they cause problems for me, my family and give me and my beliefs a bad name when they shoudlnt. When it comes to religion im a muslim and I have my beliefs, you have yours as does everyone...in england people can believe what they want...These people who are going round trying to kill people they may believe in god i cant question that, but they are not doing anything islamic. Its like a christian running round with a bomb on him saying "I WILL KILL ALL YOU ADULTERERS FOR COMMITING SIN" and then blowing himself up killing everyone including people who are still a virgin, kids etc.. Same here pal:( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 I'd probably set my Liger on them and maybe show them some nunchuck moves before getting in my rocket and flying to the planet whathasthisgottodowithanything. Why do you ask? (In reality I'd probably give them a car and then spend the next month waiting for some money) My Tigon would kick your Liger's ass. (you've been conned you know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilly Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 yea it is my opinion..everyone has experiences and meets people. I happan to know alot of different types of muslims and people, some of whome are related and affected to the war in iraq etc etc, I know alot of different types of people who have all types of opinions and influence on world affairs. Through what iv seen, heard and read iv got my own opinion on what is going on, that i believe is the truth. IM sharing it on here just like everyone else is sharing thiers on here. If im wrong about what im saying i will admit error and accept the truth... im not forcing myself to believe anything... I'm not saying your wrong...merely its your opinion. My opinion is different to yours etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 alot of these "extremists" as they like to call them come from up north, where the muslims ill admit are a bit backwards. How dare you. Any northern muslims on here care to respond to the shandy drinking southern fairy? Northernist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 How dare you. Any northern muslims on here care to respond to the shandy drinking southern fairy? Northernist Sweeping generalisations from those who are frustrated with sweeping generalisations... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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