jim_supra Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Cheers Jim, Still lots to do, not only fabrication/pipework, but also engine management/fuelling side of things. So I dont know really how long it will be, but the good thing is that I am now not reliant on others and the rest I should be able to do myself. I still have 19 days holliday left so might take a few days off and get going on it. That's if it ever stops raining! Just been looking at the SAFC2 paperwork, cant say that looks like the easiest of things to drive or install either. You going to JAE again this year? You've got your work cut out then! I'm sure it will be pretty much plain sailing though from now as the difficult stuff has already been done. The SAFC does look tricky to install, but i'm not very good with electric so that'll be why! but I'm sure it's not as daunting as it seems. And yes, I will definitely be going to JAE this year, wouldn't miss it. you going? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 Is the charger housing watercooled? If not its going to get pretty hot sitting on the exhaust manifold. Are you using an intercooler? The supercharger is mounted on 2 layers of 10mm mildsteel with an air barrier to minimise direct conduction. Also there is no direct contact between the exhaust manifold and the supercharger. What you can't see from the photos is the bracket supporting the sandwich plates the supercharger is mounted on. Dont forget also this is designed to sit in the V of a V engine. Superchargers by their very nature dont get as hot as turbos, which also sit in the same position as mine and have no heat barrier but direct conection to the exhaust manifold. With the low boost I will be initially running a intercooler should not be required. Should I start running serious compression at a later date from then I will intercool. I have most of the pipework to do this. Should point out that the outlet flange can and will most likely be positioned differently on the charger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted June 29, 2007 Author Share Posted June 29, 2007 And yes, I will definitely be going to JAE this year, wouldn't miss it. you going? Probabaly, didn't book in advance as I may be either working away or get the go ahead to take some holliday. Had a lot going on at work lately and spending loads of time working away in France. But if at all possible I will be there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishman Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 good work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_supra Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 Probabaly, didn't book in advance as I may be either working away or get the go ahead to take some holliday. Had a lot going on at work lately and spending loads of time working away in France. But if at all possible I will be there. Good good. It's a great weekend and it's going to be even better than last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twijesiri Posted June 29, 2007 Share Posted June 29, 2007 thats looking great, i would love to see it run against a stock TT ansd see what the out come is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravi4001 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 i am new to owning a supra and plan to do the same project let me know how it turns out pleasee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Finally someone making a serious go of this. I've always said a Supercharged 2JZ-GE should be a fantastic car to drive. Look forward to the updates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tricky-Ricky Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Finally someone making a serious go of this. I've always said a Supercharged 2JZ-GE should be a fantastic car to drive. Look forward to the updates. I agree! liner power delivery, should feel like your driving a much bigger engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Ahh why now?? My bank manager will be mad I suppose I was looking for this alternative so subscribing this topic. Do not forget to give final price at the end Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Fantastic You'll have to manage the heat especially as it's non-intercooled, but keeping the boost low is deffo the sensible route. You could benefit massively from water injection y'know, it'd reduce charge temps a lot. I wouldn't run it off an SAFC as it's got no clue about positive boost. You should be able to get an E-Manage Blue for around the price of a SAFC2 anyway, and that's got it's own MAP sensor and can wind up the injector duty cycle according to whatever boost it's seeing. Perfect. It could even run the water injection It'd be good if you could get air in from the scuttle area as that's a zone of high pressure while driving, so you'd get a cold air ram feed - not sure how the hell you'd do it though. Get all this working and you'll make a mint selling kits, a supercharger bolt-on like this is what the NA guys are crying out for, it'd make the car evil -Ian PS love the signature Spot on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 2, 2007 Author Share Posted July 2, 2007 Fantastic You'll have to manage the heat especially as it's non-intercooled, but keeping the boost low is deffo the sensible route. You could benefit massively from water injection y'know, it'd reduce charge temps a lot. I wouldn't run it off an SAFC as it's got no clue about positive boost. You should be able to get an E-Manage Blue for around the price of a SAFC2 anyway, and that's got it's own MAP sensor and can wind up the injector duty cycle according to whatever boost it's seeing. Perfect. It could even run the water injection It'd be good if you could get air in from the scuttle area as that's a zone of high pressure while driving, so you'd get a cold air ram feed - not sure how the hell you'd do it though. Get all this working and you'll make a mint selling kits, a supercharger bolt-on like this is what the NA guys are crying out for, it'd make the car evil -Ian PS love the signature Spot on. Ian, thanks. I will probably PM you at some point to pick your brains and extensive knowledge. One of the reasons I went down the SAFC2 route was because many of the NA-T people have gone this way and it was reccomended as a low cost way when using low boost. Eventually I would like to use the LINK2 as I like the sound and spec on this as well as the price. Anyhow for now there are many other things to take care of, but it is progressing and I have next Friday and Monday off to spend a bit more time on it. If it ever stops raining that is! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 well done that man for taking a project on like this and not just talking about it like so many have done on this forum, although i am a turbo type i enjoy watching progress on projects like this:respekt: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Sweet dude all you need now is a big chrome scoop sticking out the top Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trig Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Would this be considerably cheaper than an NA-T kit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 Great to see someone making a go of this, super Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 average minds discuss events, Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 2, 2007 Author Share Posted July 2, 2007 Would this be considerably cheaper than an NA-T kit? TBH, I doubt it. To date I have spent about £900 and still have loads more to do. Saying that though, the fabrication of the mounting bracket cost quite a bit and I guess subsequent brackets wont be as expensive as the angles and methods have all been worked out. Also as I have said previously, I should have spent more time looking at alternators which had, or could be modified to provide a decent PTO at the back. This would have saved space and also meant that the extension shaft and bearing would not have been required. When it is all done I will do the sums and post the results. But, will it ever stop raining so I can get out there? Very frustrating as I have planned this project since last year and have been waiting to get it underway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 2, 2007 Author Share Posted July 2, 2007 Really? Don't take it personally;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 well N/A-T kits go into the ££££'s and since youve done the work,making duplicates will prob be cheaper and easy to sell,i know i want one,been thinking of something but dont have the money or time or knowledge well done for giving it a go tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shane Posted July 2, 2007 Author Share Posted July 2, 2007 well N/A-T kits go into the ££££'s and since youve done the work,making duplicates will prob be cheaper and easy to sell,i know i want one,been thinking of something but dont have the money or time or knowledge well done for giving it a go tho The XS power kit looks great and is in the £100s. Leaves a lot of scope for fueling and management. But I really wanted something a bit different and this was one of the reasons I decided to go the route I have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 have only looked into it a bit as havnt got the cash to do it yet but this idea looks promising Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Markie Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 This looks really good and I wish you luck in getting it running smooth. Would this also pave the way for that crazy idea of people running big turbos but having a supercharger at the low revs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravi4001 Posted July 2, 2007 Share Posted July 2, 2007 actually i i getting an original TRD spercharger for mine n/a am going to run low boost is there anything hing else i have to upgrade eg injectors,plugs Shane yuh is my hero and my guinea pig thamks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted July 3, 2007 Share Posted July 3, 2007 Don't take it personally;) But but, its the internet.......evrything is serious......isnt it?!?! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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