devster360 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Guys, do you know if the smoking ban is going to include while driving? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I told you in your other thread. http://www.smokefreeengland.co.uk The new law will also require vehicles to be smokefree at all times if they are used: * to transport members of the public * in the course of paid or voluntary work by more than one person - regardless of whether they are in the vehicle at the same time. Vehicles that are used primarily for private purposes will not be required to be smokefree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Guys, do you know if the smoking ban is going to include while driving? Is it white smoke or blue smoke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Ooh ooh somebody ask me, somebody ask me!!!!1!!!ONE I've learnt this inside-out through no fault of my own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil tt Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Just give up you know you want to:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr lover Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 i drive a company car all day, my place of work, will it include these ? I don't smoke by the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra61 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 i drive a company car all day, my place of work, will it include these ? I don't smoke by the way no geri says you just smolder... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 i drive a company car all day, my place of work, will it include these ? I don't smoke by the way Yep. No more smoking in company vehicles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil tt Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I been trying to explain to the blokes at work that they will no longer be able to smoke in company vehicles, but there answer is what are you going to do if you catch. Hasn't been decieded yet, but it must be a sackable offence, but is it instant:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 You can be stopped by the police if you are seen smoking. If you are in a a company vehicle then you are subject to fines up to a maximum of £2500 and the company you work for will be in trouble too if they have not fitted no smoking signs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couv3z Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 i also heard a rumour... in YOUR own car if your spark up with a non smoker in the car they have the right to make you put it out...........??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyP Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 I could be wrong but as I understand it smoking will no longer be allowed in "shared" company vehicles. i.e. if you have a company car that only you drive then that's ok. However if you drive a van that other people may drive then you cannot smoke in it. Btw I gave up 8 months ago but still think the ban sucks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 i also heard a rumour... in YOUR own car if your spark up with a non smoker in the car they have the right to make you put it out...........??? If the car is owned by you then smoke away. If you give a lift to a work colleague during working hours then you could be on shaky ground. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 i.e. if you have a company car that only you drive then that's ok. You can't smoke in it though if you have a colleague with you regardless of whether they smoke or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
couv3z Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 question..... how will the police know if its a company car?? or will ther ebe a new law where compnay car have to have a sticker on them to point them out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 question..... how will the police know if its a company car?? or will ther ebe a new law where compnay car have to have a sticker on them to point them out? I'd imagine they can check the registered owner. Doug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 If the car is owned by you then smoke away. If you give a lift to a work colleague during working hours then you could be on shaky ground. you can smoke in your own car and no one can stop you if they smoke or not, even if you give them a lift it is there choice to get in your car but with the new rules you are not allowed to smoke in your own house 2 hrs before someone comes round to fix something ie plumber,gas man electric man etc which sucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 you can smoke in your own car and no one can stop you if they smoke or not, even if you give them a lift it is there choice to get in your car I think they're 'asking' you not to do if if you've got someone else in your car, apparently if it's a company car, it comes under the 'workplace act', which is a load of crap, I can't open the window in my office, but I can in a car... But if for example, if I was travelling up to my other office in my car, with a passenger (Who would know I smoked as we're a small office), then I'd expect them to know I smoked, and to deal with me lighting up, OR to kindly ask me not to, in which case, I'd have to consider how I was going to act... Personally, if someone asked me not to smoke whilst they're in the car, I wouldn't... If they didn't mind, then I would carry on as normal... Window open, blowing out the window, fag held near the window... It's common decency, I don't need a law to tell me that... Anyway, If I get pulled, I'll just say we're off for a romantic weekend away, gay if needs be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s3upra Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 God i love this country-Ban Ban Ban,(let everyone out of jail-including terrorists,peodophiles and rapists)but encourage disease ridden immigrants(look the figures up) yes lets ban smoking-that'l help. Whats next-Wanking? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr_Doom Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Whats next-Wanking? I hope not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 with the new rules you are not allowed to smoke in your own house 2 hrs before someone comes round to fix something ie plumber,gas man electric man etc which sucks That can't be true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 apparently it is,because your house will become their workplace was chatting to few people the other day and they all said this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 you can smoke in your own car and no one can stop you if they smoke or not, even if you give them a lift it is there choice to get in your car but with the new rules you are not allowed to smoke in your own house 2 hrs before someone comes round to fix something ie plumber,gas man electric man etc which sucks Not true. Private accommodation 3.—(1) A private dwelling is not smoke-free except for any part of it which is— (a) used in common in relation to more than one set of premises (including premises so used in relation to any other private dwelling or dwellings); or (b) used solely as a place of work (other than work that is excluded by paragraph (2)) by— (i) more than one person who does not live in the dwelling; (ii) a person who does not live in the dwelling and any person who does live in the dwelling; or (iii) a person (whether he lives in the dwelling or not) who in the course of his work invites persons who do not live or work in the dwelling to attend the part of it which is used solely for work. (2) There is excluded from paragraph (1)(b) all work that is undertaken solely— (a) to provide personal care for a person living in the dwelling; (b) to assist with the domestic work of the household in the dwelling; © to maintain the structure or fabric of the dwelling; or (d) to install, maintain or remove any service provided to the dwelling for the benefit of persons living in it. (3) In this regulation, "private dwelling" includes self-contained residential accommodation for temporary or holiday use and any garage, outhouse or other structure for the exclusive use of persons living in the dwelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Re: Vehicles: Enclosed vehicles 11. —(1) Subject to the following paragraphs of this regulation, an enclosed vehicle and any enclosed part of a vehicle is smoke-free if it is used— (a) by members of the public or a section of the public (whether or not for reward or hire); or (b) in the course of paid or voluntary work by more than one person (even if those persons use the vehicle at different times, or only intermittently). (2) A vehicle or part of a vehicle is enclosed for the purposes of paragraph (1) where it is enclosed wholly or partly by a roof and by any door or window that may be opened. (3) Except where paragraph (4) applies, "roof" in paragraph (2) includes any fixed or moveable structure or device which is capable of covering all or part of the vehicle, including any canvas, fabric or other covering. (4) In relation to a vehicle that is engaged in conveying persons, "roof" does not include any fixed or moveable structure or device which is completely stowed away so that it does not cover all or any part of the vehicle. (5) A vehicle is not used in the course of paid or voluntary work for the purposes of paragraph (1)(b) where it is used primarily for the private purposes of a person who— (a) owns it; or (b) has a right to use it which is not restricted to a particular journey. (6) This regulation applies to all vehicles other than— (a) aircraft; or (b) ships or hovercraft in respect of which regulations could be made under section 85 of the Merchant Shipping Act 1995[6] (safety and health on ships), including that section as applied by any Order in Council under section 1(1)(h) of the Hovercraft Act 1968[7] or to persons on any such ships or hovercraft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Millsy Posted June 22, 2007 Share Posted June 22, 2007 Seriously though, who's going to pay much attention to this ban? I'm a smoker and I consider myself to be considerate but I think the ban is ridiculous. I can live with the pub, nightclub and office ban - lets face it most offices, shopping centres etc already are smoke free. And if pubs and nightclubs provide outside areas then fine. But can you really imagine people in garages, vans etc stubbing out - I mean, who's going to check up on them. If it's the police then that is just a waste of resources surely. Personally, I don't think it'll affect me much anyway but it's not really made me think about quitting. The cost of cigarettes is the one thing that does make me think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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