Konrad Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Perhaps the knighthood was given to him on purpose....to revive & replenish this anti-Islam feeling around the country & the world, similar to what's evident from some of the posts on here. You seems to miss one important point - it is actually muslims, who stirs up all the flames. Realisticly - why the f**k should they care about some stupid knighthood in some stupid country at the other end of the world eh? I always thought Iranians are too busy to print another primary school book about Israelian ghouls, but hey... Funniest thing is that british muslims seems to not be really interested in this lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Perhaps the knighthood was given to him on purpose....to revive & replenish this anti-Islam feeling around the country & the world, similar to what's evident from some of the posts on here. Chip ?? Shoulder ?? ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Yep it's all a big conspiracy against Islam!! Certainly seems that way. Imi, do you actually belive that statement or are you just being argumentative?? H. And I am not the only one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I watched this today. Certainly makes interesting viewing. Watch it all it's about 5mins long. A very structured and intellectual argument. click Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I watched this today. Certainly makes interesting viewing. Watch it all it's about 5mins long. A very structured and intellectual argument. click Only thing I agree upon is that she is free to believe whatever it is that she wants to believe. That is the Islamic way. Also some of the bits about the Saudis - good points that I agree with (its the bit that wasnt translated ) The rest was just pile of poo to be honest; full of inaccuracies of the highest order. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 I watched this today. Certainly makes interesting viewing. Watch it all it's about 5mins long. A very structured and intellectual argument. clickIs it just me or has that link been taken down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 linky no worky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Bad link, correct one is http://www.break.com/index/arab-woman-takes-on-muslim-cleric2.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 Thanks Homer. As said above, a very structured and intellectual argument. She's got guts to say it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted June 20, 2007 Share Posted June 20, 2007 She is right about the muslims not doing themselves any favours by acts of violence, but although the Jews have raised themselves from being the persecuted to where they are today without violence, many muslims would argue (to the death) about whether or not they are now the persecutors. But that's another thing entirely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 She is right about the muslims not doing themselves any favours by acts of violence, that should read SOME MUSLIMS, like SOME JEWS, Christians or whatever but although the Jews have raised themselves from being the persecuted to where they are today without violence, I find that statement of hers to be quite laughable. Amazing how she can get away with such a sweeping statement. many Muslims would argue (to the death) about whether or not they are now the persecutors. But that's another thing entirely like many OTHERS.....its not as if Muslims have some sort of a vendetta against Jewish people...... LOL - amazing what people would love to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Religion is a load of Bullocks! Im not even going there on this one as I will end up getting in trouble me thinks. All I will say is I could not give a toss if he gets it or not, but if its going to cause so much sh1t whats the point at all? http://thejediismway.org/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Bad link, correct one is http://www.break.com/index/arab-woman-takes-on-muslim-cleric2.html I think she makes some very good points. Don't even get me started on Saudi, I could rant for hours about that place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Originally Posted by hogmaw She is right about the muslims not doing themselves any favours by acts of violence, Then by imi that should read SOME MUSLIMS, like SOME JEWS, Christians or whatever Cant remember the last time a jew, christian or a whatever killed a load of innocents in the name of religion. Muslims on the other hand are another subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Cant remember the last time a jew, christian or a whatever killed a load of innocents in the name of religion. Muslims on the other hand are another subject Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share Posted June 21, 2007 Your invaluable input into this thread has really opened my eyes, many thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Your invaluable input into this thread has really opened my eyes, many thanks. glad to be of service - thought it was about time i returned the favour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Is it me or wasn't this thread to discuss whether SR merited a knighthood. Once again it seems to be brought down to the level of arguements over religious intolerence by the same parties on both sides. These arguements are trotted out in every thread where there is the slightest hint of religion, mainly talking about muslims. Jeez give it a break Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Is it me or wasn't this thread to discuss whether SR merited a knighthood. Once again it seems to be brought down to the level of arguements over religious intolerence by the same parties on both sides. These arguements are trotted out in every thread where there is the slightest hint of religion, mainly talking about muslims. Jeez give it a break Yep, seems ok to slag people's religion off on here, but have a pop at a NA or TT owner, BANG, instant thread lock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Is it me or wasn't this thread to discuss whether SR merited a knighthood. Once again it seems to be brought down to the level of arguements over religious intolerence by the same parties on both sides. These arguements are trotted out in every thread where there is the slightest hint of religion, mainly talking about muslims. Jeez give it a break well pointed out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 Is it me or wasn't this thread to discuss whether SR merited a knighthood. Once again it seems to be brought down to the level of arguements over religious intolerence by the same parties on both sides. These arguements are trotted out in every thread where there is the slightest hint of religion, mainly talking about muslims. Jeez give it a break Great post!! I looked at this thread last night and although I typed out a reply to another member, I binned it as I thought "What is the fooking point of discussing this sh!t any further!! Maybe a good idea to close the thread too!! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted June 21, 2007 Author Share Posted June 21, 2007 FAO the above - the thread was created to discuss the *reaction* to the knighthood of this particular character. The strongest reaction (as always it seems) has come from Muslims so the subject of religion is bound to come up. So in response to Max Headroom, yes it's you. I see a fairly reasoned thread here, sadly we don't have any extremists to put that side of things across though so I guess it could be a little biased, don't ask for a lock, just don't visit the thread if you can't cope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 FAO the above - the thread was created to discuss the *reaction* to the knighthood of this particular character. The strongest reaction (as always it seems) has come from Muslims so the subject of religion is bound to come up. So in response to Max Headroom, yes it's you. I see a fairly reasoned thread here, sadly we don't have any extremists to put that side of things across though so I guess it could be a little biased, don't ask for a lock, just don't visit the thread if you can't cope. funny you should say that - seems you're normally the first to initiate threads which get a "reaction" - usually a bad one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 FAO the above - the thread was created to discuss the *reaction* to the knighthood of this particular character. The strongest reaction (as always it seems) has come from Muslims so the subject of religion is bound to come up. So in response to Max Headroom, yes it's you. I see a fairly reasoned thread here, sadly we don't have any extremists to put that side of things across though so I guess it could be a little biased, don't ask for a lock, just don't visit the thread if you can't cope. I wasn't asking for a lock, just asking wether we can get back on track discussing whether SR deserves to get a knighthood. I can cope with it, it just gets a little much when it turns out to be a "he's a witch!! burn the witch" type of thread. I have already put my view across about SR and his knighthood and it had nothing to do with religion more the fellow himself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted June 21, 2007 Share Posted June 21, 2007 funny you should say that - seems you're normally the first to initiate threads which get a "reaction" - usually a bad one I thought that accolade usually went to imi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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