Alan999 Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 My windows updated when I was turning it off the other day, now my mouse, key board, none of the usb ports etc work. My pc will start up but nothing comes on my monitor and it does not power any of the speakers etc that are plugged in. Can anyone help please? Off out now so will have to try everything later on or tomorrow day. Cheers all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 take the battery out of the motherboard. its like a watch battery. for around a minute Always cures problems for me if nothing shows up at all. worth a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_surj Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 Yea taking the battery out normally resets the bios. also check your ram is in properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 however you need to move the jumpers as well to reset the bios. Sounds like a gfx fault do you get any beeps at all when it boots up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted June 16, 2007 Share Posted June 16, 2007 however you need to move the jumpers as well to reset the bios. Sounds like a gfx fault do you get any beeps at all when it boots up? no you dont, just disconnect the battery + power cord, you only need to move jumpers if you want to reset the bios without removing the battery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 ahhhhh I always do both just to be sure lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 No I didnt get the beep as was said before. Thanks all just going to try that now. Made sure everything was connected prop last night so dont think anything is loose, but will double check. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 Right I have just tryed that now and still nothing. Will have to nip and buy another bat tomorrow see if that helps. Is there anything else I could try? What are the jumpers and were do I move them to. I no abit about PC's but not all that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Do you get the POST screen - i.e. the crap that flies up the screen when you first switch it on? enumerates memory/cpu/hard disks. I wouldn't have jumped straight in with molesting the innards of the PC if it looks as though an update did this. I have had problems in the past with updates buggering up the power saving features on the motherboard. Removing the power cable from the PSU for 5 mins and re-plugging it fixes that (although I assume that you had the power out when you did the mobo frig ). If you are getting the POST screen coming up, then it is unlikely to be fried memory/gfx. You should try hammering f8 as it boots to get the boot menu up. If possible you should be able to choose from a menu option to boot from last known good configuration or even safe mode. My advice is probably as useful as a chocolate fire-guard at this point though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 No I get nothing at all. Just turns on all the fans start turning etc and I still get the blue led that comes on my graphics card but nothing works. Before anyone says yes my monitor is plugged in and turned on:p Left the bat and power plug out now so will try again in abit. Think I will have to go and butcher an old pc see if I can find any bits I can swap etc. Bloody PC's never really had any probs before with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 Ive just put a new bat in out of an old pc that works and guess what. Still nothing! think it may be going out of the window soon. Took all the bits out and re fitted to just to be sure:rolleyes: Always the case that something like this happens whe you have loads you needed to back up etc Bloody PC's:angry: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra_surj Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Can you hear the harddrives loading? you know that sound they make. I would take out the ram and the grafix card, give the connectors a wipe clean then try again. You dont get any beeps on start up? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 Experimenting with swapping in known good memory/gfx card may be the only recourse - could also be the PSU not giving the correct power to the mobo (i.e. shagged PSU that make all the right noises but isn't doing its job properly) - that is always a good one to catch you out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 I get no beeps at all. It sounds like everything boots up hard drive etc. Just been and got my old graphics card out of the box will take the newer one out see if that helps and try my memory to. So what can I do if the PSU is buggered? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 PSU change is easy job but,press delete on boot to get into bios; see if you can find halt if keyboard not found and disable. Faulty keybord can do this - try booting without it. hard to fix from a distance Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 I have tryed a diff keybored and mouse and they dont work either. Just going to take the hard drive out of my old pc see if this one works in it. If my harddrive is buggered is there any way of getting anything off it still? going to make it my slave drive see if I can get into it if the other one works. May make you laugh here but which bit is the PSU?? I know what bits look like but dont no there names. Can take it all apart and put it back together easy enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted June 17, 2007 Share Posted June 17, 2007 no probs its the power supply unit. real easy to change and cheap; usually held by 4 screws and the wiring loom inside. just replace it and connect up your drives, graphics card as normal. (turn the mains off - lol) check ram is seated correctly this can cause failure like this Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 17, 2007 Author Share Posted June 17, 2007 I changed that not long back and its working fine, but will try another just in case. Just dissmantled my dads dell pc. Good job hes away for afew days. got two hard drives form it i can try. Have to go to bloody work now on nights so its a to be continued until tomorrow! Cheers all for your help so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share Posted June 18, 2007 Right, just got in from work tryed two other hard drives in my pc and still nothing! Tryed my hard drive in the other PC and its working fine Im very pleased about that. Good start to the day at least:D I cant test the RAM as I dont think it will work with the motherboard in the other PC, but have tryed each stick on it own and nothing. Just going to swap the PSU now and make sure thats working. Is there anything else I should try? Im thinking of going getting a new mother board etc if the PSU works ok, but dont really want to have to do that as I would not have a clue what to buy etc and it would prob cost afew quid and I was thinking of changeing my pc in about 6 months or so, so I would rather not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share Posted June 18, 2007 Its not the PSU either and its still Now I have put both PC's back together and have 4 spare screws from somewhere Problem now is the Dell PC of my dads that I took apart to test that parts, I cant log on to it. I may have to swap the hard drives around as it has 2. Also I get a screen up when I turn it on to update the time etc but not sure what to choose with the other options I'm tired and need to sleep but want need to get the damn things fixed before I have kip and go back to work tonight, so if anyone has any ideas all please let me no. *EDIT* Fixed the Dell now thank god just needed to switch the master and slave wire around on the hard drives. Still no joy with my pc though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted June 18, 2007 Share Posted June 18, 2007 Sounds like le mobo mort! One last shot in the dark is removing the floppy drive connections (just disconnect the cable from the motherboard and the power from the drive itself - I have had problems with FDD connectors (not being keyed or having inappropriate cheapo interfaces without a housing) being on the wrong way around and having the motherboard not fully power up to save itself from some damage. This really is a stab in the dark as you haven't mentioned having the machine apart before this problem occurred. You may have to bite the bullet and get a new motherboard - but that can be tricky and expensive depending. If your motherboard is well old (being 6months+ lol ), you may have problems locating a similar one. It sounds as though you have your data in-tact on your hard drive, which is good. You may want to consider getting that disk backed up quick-sharp, or at least stop sticking it in what appears to be a sick PC. If you can find a similar/same motherboard then you are on to a winner, as it will be a simple replacement no new memory or cpu etc., or even no re-install also there will be a good chance that Windows will not spit the dummy and claim your copy of Windows is not valid! (can't change too much hardware before it starts winging). A huge problem with switching in a similar yet not the same model motherboard is that the installed Windows may not be able to figure out what to do with your hard disk or other important chipset driver bits. If you know the model number / make of your motherboard. cpu type and memory type, maybe someone here can suggest where to get one, or your best alternative. Hopefully some other bright spark will interject with a more sensible option than an outright motherboard replacement. Sorry can't be of more help. If you were a bit closer I would come and have a look Cheers and Good Luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan999 Posted June 18, 2007 Author Share Posted June 18, 2007 Cheers mate. Im thinking of going down the new mother board ram etc. Did not think it would be a problem swapping it but it asked to confirm it was a real copy when I put it in the other pc but I have all the codes etc for it so it should not be to much of a problem should it? Ive had the disk drive dissconnected because it was a pain in the backside getting the cable plugged back in while I was messing with it so dont think its that either Ive found a motherboard that will take my graphics card now but not the rest of the stuff with it being over 6yrs old. just means I get to update abit sooner now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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