carl0s Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Didn't leave an office in Leeds until 21:10 last night and I could sense disheartedness in the girlfriend's voice when I kept ringing saying "I won't be long now", however it took over 45 minutes for a 5minute active directory forest prepartion to occur on this 10yr old server. So I was running late. The copper didn't clock me at any particular speed, other than that on the video he was doing 117mph and still wasn't gaining on me, so from this he will estimate what my speed probably was. He was a nice chap and we got along well. He said I would probably plead hardship being self employed looking after the IT for 20 odd different companies. He agreed I wasn't driving dangerously, just driving with excessive speed. d'oh. Aren't all Japanese imported cars limited to 112mph though? It's just from the video it looks like I was doing over 120, maybe even 130 - 140. Not possible surely? I wasn't looking at the clock, mainly the road, although I suppose at one point it might have been pointing at 120mph, which would in reality be 112-ish mph. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wallace9 Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I don't think it really matters if it was only 112mph. Over a ton and your looking at a ban Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Sorry Carl but that isn't good!! I would just plead poverty and say you need your car to keep employed etc. I think I got done yesterday if that is any comfort!! Thought I had got away with 45 in a 40 until a mate pointed out that the road I was on is now a 30....... H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I got done on Tuesday for 47 in a 30, because I had a previous speeding conviction I got 5 points and £275 fine... Not too impressed about that result really... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Someone did get away with this in court by saying his jap car was limited to 112mph. In his case the police equipment clearly showed way above this. They sent his car for testing and confirmed it wouldn't do the speed they clocked him at and had to throw the case out completely due to no evidence. The case was on pepipoo I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil tt Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Sorry but as above:( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Someone did get away with this in court by saying his jap car was limited to 112mph. In his case the police equipment clearly showed way above this. They sent his car for testing and confirmed it wouldn't do the speed they clocked him at and had to throw the case out completely due to no evidence. The case was on pepipoo I think. Don't give up. If you are going to court anyway, make sure your limiter works and say "but my car physically can't go that fast" and stick to it. Don't even admit to driving fast. You can't remember what speed you were doing at the time (and can't reasonably be expected to) but you were, as ever, driving sensibly for the conditions at the time. Your clean license (if you have a clean license ) will attest to the fact that despite having a fast car you do not drive it outside of the law. -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_a Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Agreed. Your car is limited (if it isn't get it fitted asap) That way when he says "i was doing 117 and he was pulling away" you can say "er no, the car can't do more than 112" so that makes his evidence wrong. Should get thrown out. Dinnae do it again though! m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I don't think it really matters if it was only 112mph. Over a ton and your looking at a ban Nah - several people I know have been caught in the region of 110mph and come away with 6 points and a fine. Having been stopped by a friendly policeman will help, definitely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Agreed you may have a chance to get away with this, especially if he didn't actually get a speed reading. There's no way to say accurately what speed you were doing, other than that you were exceeding the limit. Surely they'd only be able to prosecute for a standard 3 points and £60 fine at best in that case? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Get that limiter sorted mate!! It's not as if you are going to want to go faster between now and going to court..... I would keep it up your sleeve until the coppers have given their evidence....... H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 I had a similar thing.. The bloke who pulled me over was nice as pie, we sat is discussing the VASCO system in his car, and he was showing me doing 115mph (same as you and him not gaining)... Same agreed stuff, just quick not dangerous... Then ended up in court without this 'nice' officer, and they charged me with 5 points and £300.... So it didn't really make a damn difference how well I was driving or how well I got on with officer... the courts just took one look and went BAN... and only after some very heartful pleading, they agreed to give me license with only 1 point left on it... I'd be careful if I were you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Then ended up in court without this 'nice' officer, and they charged me with 5 points and £300.... errr.. 5 points and £300 sounds pretty lenient for 115mph (65% over limit), isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 errr.. 5 points and £300 sounds pretty lenient for 115mph, isn't it? The 5 points were the total they gave me to take me up to 11 points... being a consultant I said that using public transport would end up costing me a fortune since the company provide me with a vehicle, and I would loose my job and then therefore not be able to pay the fine.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Does the video show the speed of the police car? If it does and the video shows him not gaining on you, then could the video be used in court to prove the case? Might be worth a quiet chat with our resident bobby Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soop Dogg Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Get that limiter sorted mate!! It's not as if you are going to want to go faster between now and going to court..... I would keep it up your sleeve until the coppers have given their evidence....... H. Keeping it up his sleeve could be construed as failing to mention at the time, something that he later relied on in court. Get a brief. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Keeping it up his sleeve could be construed as failing to mention at the time, something that he later relied on in court. ...which isn't illegal. Saying nowt is still often the best option IMO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 im confused ? did he state the speed you were driving at or just estimate it ? Surely an estimate is not admissable in court as it is not accurate and doesn't represent fact. i suggest you have this moved to members chat. I suspect to prove your car was limited you will have to employ an expert to drive the car and prepare a report (this will be expensive) when i had to employ an expert to check me out and write a report it was circa £600 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 As already said get the limiter fitted. Probably best a mod moving this to members section!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 If its any consolation i got done for 52 in a 40 last week too 3 points and £60 - i went and bought a camera detector! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Get what limiter fitted? The cars are limited from the factory. It's in their makeup. I'd have to have some kind of de-limiter chip to even go beyond 112mph. I'm basically thinking what Pete and Ian said, basically he seemed to be of the opinion that I was "probably exceeding 120mph", and if that comes up in court then I think the speed limit could show that their video was in fact a bit wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 Oh yeah and apparently my license was revoked in 2002, and I have 10 points. First I've heard I thought I had six, and an actual license too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miko_supra Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Get what limiter fitted? The cars are limited from the factory. It's in their makeup. I'd have to have some kind of de-limiter chip to even go beyond 112mph. People are saying this as the majority of 'em dont have the limiter anymore. Oh yeah and apparently my license was revoked in 2002, and I have 10 points. First I've heard I thought I had six, and an actual license too. oh dear And yeah i agree, get this moved to a more secure section of the forum Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted June 7, 2007 Author Share Posted June 7, 2007 People are saying this as the majority of 'em dont have the limiter anymore. oh dear Ah. I'm almost certain my car tops out at somewhere around 120 on the clock. I know that's still naughtly, but it just sort of brings the validity of the speed-estimate into question a little bit. And yeah i agree, get this moved to a more secure section of the forum Fair enough. I'm not up to anything sinister though. I'll let the mods do whatever they feel is most suitable if they happen to be passing by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted June 7, 2007 Share Posted June 7, 2007 Oh yeah and apparently my license was revoked in 2002, and I have 10 points. First I've heard I thought I had six, and an actual license too. Driving without a license? Therefore insured? At 100+mph. Ooooooh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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