mathew Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 posted up a few pics of my car on a forum and started a thread about jap cars then get a guy straight away going on about his fathers 330bhp civic beating supras with ease. before i get into an argument with this guy id just like to know peoples opinions. maybe il have to accept defeat in this argument Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Does your N/A have 500bhp then Matt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Driving round a supermarket probably not very well... but come on.. a 500bhp/500ftb supra against a civic? the fwd would be it downfall alone until the thing got to 90mph, even if it did have a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Two Hopes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Mine probably has a little more than 500bhp, but I cannot see how a 330bhp civic would keep up at any speed. They're both going to have traction issues at low speeds - sub 60 mph (probably more so in the civic), but how the heck can one keep up with a 500bhp rwd car once speeds are up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Two Hopes. yeah F**k and all Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezz Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Guy at CPL has the fastest civic in the UK. 11.2 quarter mile IIRC. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 depends on where the race is mate, if its off the lights its a very easy kill to the supe all that front wheel drive twitching around in the air for grip would be hilarious, twistys if the supe is well set up with reasonable suspension still a kill, people tend to think of the supra as being a lard bucket that cant handle................until they come up against one:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 Civic Coupe and M5 at a track day over here. http://www.icetronix.com/video/civic_v_m5.wmv that ones only got 240bhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mathew Posted June 5, 2007 Author Share Posted June 5, 2007 the civic is supercharged by the way. up to 140mph there was nothing in it apparently:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I know someone whos about to complete his turbo CTR project running over 400bhp. Dunno how it'll get on with grip but he did have a wee bit of bother when it was supercharged. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I know it seems like a no brainer but our cars are not unbeatable....I think it would be a lot closer than a lot of you think...I remember seeing a t61 vs a turbo civic and the supra got destroyed! might be closer than we all think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike M Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I know it seems like a no brainer but our cars are not unbeatable....I think it would be a lot closer than a lot of you think...I remember seeing a t61 vs a turbo civic and the supra got destroyed! might be closer than we all think Well I know the supercharged CTR runs around 270bhp and gives scoobies more than something to think about on the track so I would reckon it would be close until silly leptons where the civic will run out of revs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 I know it seems like a no brainer but our cars are not unbeatable....I think it would be a lot closer than a lot of you think...I remember seeing a t61 vs a turbo civic and the supra got destroyed! might be closer than we all think how the hell did that happen, how could a rear wheel drive car get "destroyed" by a front wheel drive giving away 200 hp, i,me struggling with the concept of that mate not just supras but any cars Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 how the hell did that happen, how could a rear wheel drive car get "destroyed" by a front wheel drive giving away 200 hp, i,me struggling with the concept of that mate not just supras but any cars What does a civic weigh ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chilli Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 that sort of power through fwd is going to be a nightmare at the best of times. ok so the civic weighs f-all, but that's not much help when the one time that helps you (at lower speeds) the thing can't put the power down. anyway, all a bit academic, but if you arrange the challenge for real can I place I bet please (on the supra ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 What does a civic weigh ? i dont know, yes that would be a factor if they were both rear wheel drive (or FWD) but they aint so the lighter weight is negated by superior traction, one squats its arse down and plants its drive wheels and the other lifts its drive wheels up in the air, i am sure you could alleviate this to an extent on a front wheel drive car but it is allways going to be a factor, in a straight line the only way a 300 hp FWD car could beat a 500 RWD car is if the RWD driver was a complete retard:D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letmeshowyou Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 as a comparison Dan Patten's best time was 13.2 on the 1/4 mile in his turbo'd CRX with a fair old bit of engine work done (1.8 with lined cylinders etc). That was about 300bhp IIRC. Horrendously unreliable too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 as a comparison Dan Patten's best time was 13.2 on the 1/4 mile in his turbo'd CRX with a fair old bit of engine work done (1.8 with lined cylinders etc). That was about 300bhp IIRC. Horrendously unreliable too! That's pretty quick... can a fwd car with 300 brake really run a 13.2?? Maybe I should try mine backwards next time. but it also depends on the dyno you are comparing from too. a proper 500 sup means single to me and 500 ponies at the wheels. 300 horses at the front end of a civic will struggle for traction bigtime from 0-80, as soon as single sups get to 3rd gear (60 mph) it's bye bye time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruggs Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 If you note on the first page..there is a turbo'd civic up here in scotland with around 300bhp or so running 11.2 1/4's....not sure how that compares with a 500bhp supra though. Cheers G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 If you note on the first page..there is a turbo'd civic up here in scotland with around 300bhp or so running 11.2 1/4's....not sure how that compares with a 500bhp supra though. Cheers G I think 500 bhp supras can run 12's? but 11's is a bit much...? I had terminals of 130 at the pod but throttle sutdown problems and struggled to get under 13..lol how do you get 11.2 with 300 and FWD??? and do you know what the terminal was? hard to believe! did he use a time dilation device? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruggs Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 wasnt me that ran the 11.2 it was the civic. 'd think you'd get under 13 with 500bhp and trminalsof 130mph. I was managing under 13 in my stockers at full BPU. G Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 How about if you're allowed to ram each other?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 vtec? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaymdee Posted June 5, 2007 Share Posted June 5, 2007 depends on where the race is mate, if its off the lights its a very easy kill to the supe all that front wheel drive twitching around in the air for grip would be hilarious, twistys if the supe is well set up with reasonable suspension still a kill, people tend to think of the supra as being a lard bucket that cant handle................until they come up against one:D I had a CTR in front of me on some twisties yesterday. Was wondering why he wasn' giving it some beans as it was nice and dry, then realised that he actually was as he cut across the road a few times trying to hit apexes. I just sat on his tail, nice and easy while he made it look oh so difficult. Then when we got to a straight he charged off (again with me in tow). I couldn't be arsed in the end and cruised the rest of the way into town Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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