rob wild Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Hi I sort of got that supra modifying bug! I just put on a 2nd de-cat pipe, mongoose Exhaust, Blitz induction and few other minor bits and pieces. I wanted to go the next stage and get a Greddy e-manage and a Profec E-01 boost controller. My questions are which bits of the e-manage kit do you really need? Also if I bought the main surpa harness are there still more wires to splice and install? Is it possible to set it up at home with my laptop and the support tool or is it better to take it some where to be installed? Does it do the job of a FCC? Would be ok to have it installed before the boost controller? And where is the cheapest/best place to buy the kit from? I'm sorry for all the questions, but when i tried researching this on the net and ring a few of the local tuning garages(I live near Preston) I’m getting a lot of conflicting advice and garage people who don't have a clue about this sort of thing!!! Thanks for any advice guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Depends if you just want it for a stock car the basic unit, and ign harness should suffice. Use the stock map sensor. Yes you can tune via a laptop as long as you have the support tool. We sell fields harness to save you hacking your stock loom about. Feel free to PM me if you want any more info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Ok, to expand on what Terry said, yes you can use it as a fuel cut controller. You really want the Fields harness. This has a pair of plugs joined by lots of individual wires. It goes between the ECU and the wiring loom that plugs into the ECU. The idea is you can solder all the wires you need onto the Fields harness on a bench inside without having to dangle upside down in the footwell. You can have several cofigurations:- 1. Emanage and Support Tool - you use a laptop. 2. Emanage and E01 - the E01 is a display that lets you change all the stuff you can with a laptop, albeit on a small screen. It will also log 3 hours worth of data and draw graphs etc of it, and you can plug in a few extra inputs (like a wideband) and log those too. 3. Emanage and Profec E01 - The Profec E01 is like the E01 but is also a boost controller (and a very good one too). If you go for 1 or 2, you will probably also want the pressure sensor, which allows accurate reading of boost beyond the limits of the standard MAP sensor and allows you to change your maps based on that rather than just the MAP sensor. If you go for 3 then you get the pressure sensor with the Profec, you just need a cable to connect it up. That makes option 3 better value than 2, as its only a bit more expensive that 2 with the extra sensor. If you go for 2 or 3 you might also want to buy the Support Tool and cable - that will let you use a laptop to configure and log stuff, and allow you to update the firmware on the Emanage. You can also buy a clone cable and obtain the Support Tool by other means - this will allow you to use a laptop that only has USB ports because one of the clone cables is a USB style one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Simon, do you know where these clone Support Tool Cables can be bought from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob wild Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Thanks guys some really good advice that clear a few things up, i did'nt know that you could buy clone cables. I think i'm going to get an e-manage very soon. Where can you download the software for them from? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 The Yahoo Emanage groups are here:- Supra specific E-Manage group General EManage group If you look in the Links section of the general group (you'll have to sign up first), there are two guys that make clone cables. Gilligan_Rocks does a clone of the standard cable (i.e. serial one), and further down there is a USB one. The direct link is here. It looks highly dodgy, but loads of people on the group have ordered them and I figured it was only $55US. Anyway, the cable arrived within a week, so that's pretty good. I haven't actually tried it yet though... The direct link to the Gilligan_Rocks one is here. You can find the latest firmware etc in the files section of the Yahoo group. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 He he, just realised I out-Googled the Googlemeister himself there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 18, 2004 Share Posted September 18, 2004 Originally posted by SimonB He he, just realised I out-Googled the Googlemeister himself there... Oi !!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason m Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Hey Simon - I am also just about to get an e-manage to be used with a blitz sbc id3 and pm (yet to be installed) Am I right in thinking that I need the e manage, ignition harness, injector harness, pressure sensor, and a fields harness ? Thanks mate Prob gonna get it all installed at thor, or paul whiffens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Jake we can get the cables mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Originally posted by jasonmoola Hey Simon - I am also just about to get an e-manage to be used with a blitz sbc id3 and pm (yet to be installed) Am I right in thinking that I need the e manage, ignition harness, injector harness, pressure sensor, and a fields harness ? Depends what you want to do with it, you don't need the ignition harness unless you want to tinker with the timing, but it's cheap enough so I'd probably get it at the same time. Installing is so much easier with a Fields harness, but it's not essential. You'll need the pressure sensor harness too, and the Support Tool & cable (or some equivalent... ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jason m Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Do I need the pressure sensor even if not using the the profec to control boost ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 If you are into loom additon type mods, the Field harness is well worth the money. Also a very easy way to go back to stock, just unplug and reconnect the loom to the ECU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted September 19, 2004 Share Posted September 19, 2004 Originally posted by jasonmoola Do I need the pressure sensor even if not using the the profec to control boost ? If you have a Profec you don't need the pressure sensor, the Emanage plugs into the Profec and uses its pressure sensor via a "Profec pressure sensor harness" cable. If you don't have the Profec then you probably do need the pressure sensor, otherwise you will only be able to adjust your maps based on the standard MAP sensor, which is only accurate up to a certain boost level. Using the standard MAP might be OK for you though, depends on what you're trying to achieve. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Originally posted by Terry S Jake we can get the cables mate Great 'cos I've just jumped on the eManage and a Profec e01 bandwagon! How much are these cables please Tel? How long do they take to get hold of? Cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 23, 2004 Share Posted September 23, 2004 Originally posted by SimonB You can also buy a clone cable and obtain the Support Tool by other means 'Other means'? Tell me more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Have a look in the 'Files' section of the general Emanage group on Yahoo groups mate. The link is on the first page. You'll have to sign up to the group to get access. Lots of good stuff in there... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted September 24, 2004 Share Posted September 24, 2004 Thanks Simon, I didn't realise the Support Tool software was freely available for download, I though it was just the firmware that you could get from the Yahoo Groups - I'll check it out at home tonight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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