Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Can anyone that has got the emanage up and running on a J-Spec soop tell me what jumper settings and rotary switch settings you had it to? I've got mine installed, but it won't fire, it turns over but won't start?? I'm 100% sure that all the wiring is correct, but I just can't get it to fire? Any other ideas?? Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Hi Ben Can't answer your questions as I had mine set up by a tuning shop. Have you still got an additional FCD wired in? I ask because I heard of a similar case where there was a conflict between the FCD and ECU which caused the car not to start. If this is the case you can bin the FCD as the e-manage will handle this. Just a thought.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Ben, you might want to call me on this. But heres a few pointers. The only jumper you should need to alter is JP2. IMO this needs to be on pins 2 and 3. The internal rotary dials should be on 7, 4, 0. Make sure you have the latest software and firmware in both your computer and the E-manage. I believe the firmware is now on v1.39 and the software is on v1.13 - This is quite important! You shouldn't be having any software/firmware problems if you've got the Profec though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Switch 1 = 7 Switch 2 = 4 Switch 3 = 0 JP1 = 1-2 JP2 = 1-2 but you could try 2-3 JP3 = 1-2 JP4 = 2-3 JP5 = off JP6 = off JP7 = 1-2 Hope that helps! Do some obvious stuff as well - check you are getting fuel for example -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 Thanks guys, I think it is a hardware issue, as the communication light stays on!?! I'll try the jumper change and I'm gonna attach the laptop to it and see if I can get it to do anything. What wires did you attach to pin 62 though?? As the manual says either a Hotwire sensor, or a Karman vortex? I've got it on the vortex at the minute. But can you confirm is this is correct or not. Also what is this about the FCD?? I left it installed on mine - should I remove it and bypass it with the Emanage?? Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Ben I assume it's a UK, then I am pretty they are Hot wire not KV Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Ah ha The instructions are for yank cars with a MAF (Hotwire sensor) - you've got a MAP. Pin 62 gets split and put into the airflow 1 in and out lines of the E-Manage, and you set the rotary switches to 7/4/0 to tell it it's a Toyota Pressure Sensor type 1. That might help -Ian PS Er all that is assuming you have a J-Spec Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by Terry S Ben I assume it's a UK, then I am pretty they are Hot wire not KV No Terry it is a J Spec. Just wondering about this FCD issue that has been brought up?? Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 Sorry Ben didn't read your first post properly. Pretty sure Chis has covered it though. Good Luck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 16, 2004 Author Share Posted September 16, 2004 Originally posted by Ian C Ah ha The instructions are for yank cars with a MAF (Hotwire sensor) - you've got a MAP. Pin 62 gets split and put into the airflow 1 in and out lines of the E-Manage, and you set the rotary switches to 7/4/0 to tell it it's a Toyota Pressure Sensor type 1. That might help -Ian PS Er all that is assuming you have a J-Spec I've tried that, and had no joy. The thing that worries me is that both of the LED's stay on when the unit powers up. If you have installed this with an FCD, did you install it to the input of the FCD, or to the output (to ECU pin 62) of the unit? Or did you remove it completely?? Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted September 16, 2004 Share Posted September 16, 2004 I yanked the FCD. The E-Manage has a fuel cut defender function (boost cut, they call it) which works great (set it to 4.40v). You don't need an FCD function if you've got big enough injectors for the job anyway, I've since found out, but that's a discussion for another time Not sure about both lights lighting up, I think the datalink one should only light up when you plug in the USB cable. I can't say how it behaves with a Profec as I've not got one (Matt?) and I can't check how it behaves anyway at the mo because it's on the passenger seat and the field's harness is on my desk -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 I can't remember which way around it works, but one light stays on constantly, the other one flickers constantly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 WOOHOO! It starts!! Seems that for some reason I was getting a constant live from the ECU as it wasn't shutting off properly? :conf: Talked to Matt and Mark (a.k.a. Questionboy) and they gave me a few things to check, finally it seems to be the TRL VFCC that was playing up - ripped it out and now it starts and works with no problems, I've just got a whole load of crap to tidy up in the footwell now. Also due to all of the wiring, and the work required to get to the emanage in the future, I'm gonna stick it under the passenger seat to allow me easy access in the future. Well it seems like a good idea to me! . And now I will retire to finish my bloody installation! Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Aha, that will be a dodgy ground somewhere. I had this with mine, had me very baffled for a bit as the ignition wouldn't turn off! Finally realised I'd forgotten to connect up the RLTC ground, doh! I had problems with mine when I downloaded the new firmware from the Profec (the first thing it asks when you connect it all up). It screwed up the Emanage, I just got the light flashing red-orange-green constantly. I fixed it by downloading the latest frimware from a laptop. I think the firmware version on the newer Emanages is probably OK anyway so you might want to avoid using the Profec to update it unless you have the cable to connect it to a laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 It all runs and is sort of fine, but now I keep getting the ECU warning light up. It is showing code 31 MAP sensor warning. I tried reseting it and it came straight back up again. Car obviously won't run right with it. ANyone got anymore ideas? Starting to wish I'd got someone else to fit the thing. Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Originally posted by Soonto"HAS"soop It all runs and is sort of fine, but now I keep getting the ECU warning light up. It is showing code 31 MAP sensor warning. I had this recently. The updates sorted it out. Simon, I didn't have any problems when my Profec downloaded to the Main unit. In fact, I've only had niggles on the E-manages we've done without the Profec! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Originally posted by Matt Harwood I had this recently. The updates sorted it out. Simon, I didn't have any problems when my Profec downloaded to the Main unit. In fact, I've only had niggles on the E-manages we've done without the Profec! How EXACTLY did you download the updates? Through a laptop or the Profec? I'm gonna check the wiring in the footwell again tomorrow, just in case something on that wire is a little wrong (can't see it though). Just took it for a spin and it will not run properly at all, spits and jerks and then dets at anything resembling boost. Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Sounds like the MAP sensor is open circuit... Check the airflow signal voltages to and from the E-manage. You can do this either on the Profect or a PC. I've done my updates via the PC. Have you done the download from the Profec to the E-manage yet? Check the version numbers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Yeah I've done the updates, what voltage are you using on the MAP sensor, as I had them all set to 4.40V due to the FCD feature of it. Or am I well off on that figure? Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 This is what I had set it to. Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Sorry, I didn't mean that, I meant monitor the voltages going to and from the E-manage. This can tell you if the E-manage is seeing the MAP senor and what it's trying to give the ECU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Originally posted by Matt Harwood Sorry, I didn't mean that, I meant monitor the voltages going to and from the E-manage. This can tell you if the E-manage is seeing the MAP senor and what it's trying to give the ECU. I think I may of got the MAP wires around the wrong way, as I've just played with it all and it still brings up the same code and dets at any boost. AF gauge (narrowband) is not even registering on the lean side - so I think it must be the connections to the ECU for the airflow, although the Emanage software sees an airflow meter. It's dark now, I'll have to look tomorrow at the wiring again and also the voltages. I may try it tomorrow with by bypassing that part of the emanage and see if it still brings up the code on the ECU as that would point towards a faulty sensor. Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 Originally posted by Matt Harwood I had this recently. The updates sorted it out. Simon, I didn't have any problems when my Profec downloaded to the Main unit. In fact, I've only had niggles on the E-manages we've done without the Profec! I think it's a problem that affects a small number of Profecs or Emanages or both. In any case, bunging the latest firmware on from a laptop sorted it and I guess is probably a good idea anyway. Incidently, I borrowed a support tool cable because I didn't buy the Support Tool (I was intending to use the Profec for all that). However, I've now got a clone cable that a chap in malaysia makes that attaches to the laptop via a USB port (the standard one being serial), in case I need to change the firmware again or anything. You can get copies of the Support Tool online. It was $40, the guys details are on the Yahoo Emanage group. Could be useful for people with laptops that don't have serial ports, and people that want to DL the latest firmware without having to buy the Support Tool. *disclaimer* Using a copy of the Support Tool is of course illegal, blah blah blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted September 17, 2004 Author Share Posted September 17, 2004 Originally posted by SimonB I think it's a problem that affects a small number of Profecs or Emanages or both. In any case, bunging the latest firmware on from a laptop sorted it and I guess is probably a good idea anyway. Incidently, I borrowed a support tool cable because I didn't buy the Support Tool (I was intending to use the Profec for all that). However, I've now got a clone cable that a chap in malaysia makes that attaches to the laptop via a USB port (the standard one being serial), in case I need to change the firmware again or anything. You can get copies of the Support Tool online. It was $40, the guys details are on the Yahoo Emanage group. Could be useful for people with laptops that don't have serial ports, and people that want to DL the latest firmware without having to buy the Support Tool. *disclaimer* Using a copy of the Support Tool is of course illegal, blah blah blah. I got a USB to serial adaptor, works fine, took me a while to find out that you are supposed to remove the 12 pin plug from the Emanage before updating the Hardware though. Running 1.39 now. Still got the problem. Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted September 17, 2004 Share Posted September 17, 2004 You also need to make sure the PC software is v1.13. v1.11 can cause problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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