Wez Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Hey All, I have access to various welders and was wondering which one should be used to modify my downpipe and wastegate. Where is a good place to source 3" or bigger stainless tubing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 tig , stronger and neater than mig , granted more skill needed , but far better results , dont forget to purge the pipes , or it will coke up inside. if i was still fabricatng i think i could make a mint Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted May 21, 2007 Author Share Posted May 21, 2007 Whats purging the pipes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Just spoke to my welding guy as well.... TIG will be neater (easier if you know how to do it), MIG will do it in a push, but don't forget to change the feedwire to stainless. PS : Wear gloves *grin* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 purge is the gas (argon ) thats flows slowly through the pipes when welding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Not dissing or anything, but it sounds like you need to get someone else to do it Wes. Or plenty of practice on scrap stuff first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Not dissing or anything, but it sounds like you need to get someone else to do it Wes. Or plenty of practice on scrap stuff first. I'd have to agree with the practice bit... I made the mistake of watch my mate weld, and he maked it look so super easy... Getting a nice clean weld is a result of practice, practice, practice.. It isn't just a case of hold the torch and squeeze... With things like MIG you need to get the current and wirespeed right (or at least have a good idea what to start with)... TIG is not something I've tried yet, we are busy saving some workshop-pennies to get a TIG welder (so if anyone hears of AC/DC one going cheap, let me know) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 tig is a skill aquired over many years of practice, mig was always classed as semi skilled as mostly production workers can pick it up . tig welders are like gold these days and if they are coded , are in a league of their own . but im talking now in the context of heavy industry pipework , but you get the gist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted May 21, 2007 Author Share Posted May 21, 2007 Thinking I might get someone else to weld it all. I could spot weld it all in the right place and then have someone tig weld it for final finish, do you guys think that would be better? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 should be ok , when i think of the equipment i used to use , i could of made things like this no problem at all . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 You can even spot weld with mild steel Mig then get someone to Tig it. A few spots of mild steel will be no problem.... just don't go for the gasless crap welders, the slag it produces will mess up the Tig if not all cleaned off perfectly (and the welds look sh*te too). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnd-mkiv Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Just got in from doing mine making a one off 316 stainless exhaust 3" from the turbo back, I bought the bends from Pipe line centre they call it dairy pipe. Im going to tig weld it up as this is will give the best results will post up pics tomorrow when its done just making the backbox now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 Wez, I know a superb welder in Reading if you need one. His welding is almost a work of art, I've never seen anything like it. He's quite a big name in the bike and drag racing scene as he does a lot of work for various race teams. He likes to have things prepped beforehand, he only welds and does not engineer stuff. His prices are sensible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I have the gear, just need the skill to justify it now ;} My stainless welds used to be absolutely dire, they have progressed to fairly aweful now. I am sure that I will get better, but don't hold your breath. Thick stuff is quie easy, thinner stuff tricky, lightweight stuff is frustratingly difficult / impossible for me, if I want something to be unashamed of. the photo below is a fuel swirl pot I made. The early attempts looked like pigeon *hit from a bird on curry, according to a "friend" http://www.chriswilson.tv/weld.jpg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted May 21, 2007 Share Posted May 21, 2007 I have the gear, just need the skill to justify it now ;} My stainless welds used to be absolutely dire, they have progressed to fairly aweful now. I am sure that I will get better, but don't hold your breath. Thick stuff is quie easy, thinner stuff tricky, lightweight stuff is frustratingly difficult / impossible for me, if I want something to be unashamed of. the photo below is a fuel swirl pot I made. The early attempts looked like pigeon *hit from a bird on curry, according to a "friend" http://www.chriswilson.tv/weld.jpg That is a lovely looking bit of welding, I'd be chuffed with that... I'm still getting to grips with continous welding, I can get short sections around 3 inches long but certain don't get that good a finish yet. I still class myself as a pigeon welder.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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