madmunky Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Can anyone tell me if its standard to have a what i would call an Impact Bar on the front of the supra, Basicly I have one and I had a Top secret bumper which i smashed up so decided to get a Do-Luck but this Impact Bar is stopping the Do-Luck from being fitted. Basicly trying to find out if its standard on the supra or if someone has fitted it afterwards so i can take it off or if i need to cut around it. I've attached a pic and the red part is where i have the impact bar on mine (dont have any pics of it sorry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotasuprauk Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 It is standard to have an impact bar yes, I'm surprised the aftermarket bumpers weren’t designed with such an important part of the car in mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 It's standard to have one fitted there but you'll need to remove it to fit the do-luck - this is normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 It is standard to have an impact bar yes, I'm surprised the aftermarket bumpers weren’t designed with such an important part of the car in mind. Its only there to stop the radiator/slam panels being damaged in a low speed accident/knocks, in a 'real' accident it does bugger all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmunky Posted May 18, 2007 Author Share Posted May 18, 2007 Sweet, Thanks people! Can you get a slimer bar to help protect the car still? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul mac Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Sweet, Thanks people! Can you get a slimer bar to help protect the car still? nothing available commercially you would have to make something up, as Homer says in a proper prang it aint gonna do nothing it weighs bugger all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Its not the strongest item, but from all the damaged cars i have seen its usually the one without the bar that has the most damage, as this bar helps to tie in both chassis legs... Its only there to stop the radiator/slam panels being damaged in a low speed accident/knocks, in a 'real' accident it does bugger all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoff Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Yeh you'll need to take it off to fit an after market bumper, usually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 My standard Sup turned up without one, but the front was a bit wonky too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil tt Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Do all after market kits require the removal of the front bar:search: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Do all after market kits require the removal of the front bar:search: My Top Secret fits over it no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madmunky Posted May 18, 2007 Author Share Posted May 18, 2007 Yeah my old top secret fitted over it too which is why i got worred that about the do-luck, well its going to bodyshop monday so hopefully have it all back end of next week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil tt Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Thanks just curious:d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gzaerojon Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 Its not the strongest item, but from all the damaged cars i have seen its usually the one without the bar that has the most damage, as this bar helps to tie in both chassis legs... my theory is that it could cause more damage with it in place than if it was removed. lets say you hit a post head on, surly when the crash bar bends it will pull both chassis legs towards the centre? but with the crash bar removed it will only cause damage to the rad and front of the engine, cheaper to repair imo just a theory though, but it's always difficult to work out how parts would stand up in the event of a crash, i've seen damage on cars from low speed crashes and they sometimes look worse the higher speed crashes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 I think Jody has a point that it offers a very small protection to the chassis legs - however thats not the reason it's there. It's only 4mm alu in a weak box section so will deform long before the *very* strong chassic leg will feel any pressure from a front end smack. That said, if there is a significant impact (above 15-20mph), the crash bar will completely collapse and transfer forces to the leg itself. It adds a degree of protection, but it's only really there for very minor bumps. If you have a real front on smash (above 20mph or so) its useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil tt Posted May 18, 2007 Share Posted May 18, 2007 I hope I never have to find out:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonB Posted May 19, 2007 Share Posted May 19, 2007 It adds a degree of protection, but it's only really there for very minor bumps. If you have a real front on smash (above 20mph or so) its useless. Yeah, as I understand it it's there to stop the rad getting damaged and immobilising the car in small bumps mainly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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