michael Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 One of the posts that got lost in the restore, I kept a copy so here it is again... Firstly let me begin by saying this - if you can't play nicely in this thread please don't play at all, find another one, amuse yourself in NWS or something. By all means talk about the subject at hand but please avoid silly personal attacks. OK.... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/6645555.stm Brazil is a country that has it's issues, spare kids cast out into the streets due to poverty, a rising population, AIDS and more - should someone like him be preying on the weak now that his message doesn't seem to cut it with the more open-minded, developed, countries? To turn up in Brazil and proclaim they need to stop using condoms and prevent abortions is a little dangerous isn't it? Some of the comments posted from around the world are very interesting: http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?threadID=6269&&edition=1&ttl=20070511160645 What are your thoughts? Pied Piper looking for new revenue or holy saviour out to save the world? Still at least the guy who feeds paper to people is a saint now, the Brazilian nun who travelled to Italy 30 times to state his case must be really proud of all the cash she's wasted. It's not as if people are starving in her country or anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 With the rising population and AIDS. The last thing you would want do is to go there and tell them that you can't use condoms , have abortions etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Is the Pope religious then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 You know Michael, some people would accuse you of being cynical... Not me, I agree with you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Pope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 14, 2007 Author Share Posted May 14, 2007 I've just been reading a bit about Vatican City, apparently it has the highest per capita crime rate of any nation on earth... mainly due to pick-pockets... so that's how they fund the Catholic church Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 This thread reminds me of this!! http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=1230216&postcount=76 H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 This thread reminds me of this!! http://www.mkivsupra.net/vbb/showpost.php?p=1230216&postcount=76 H. Missed that one, very good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Missed that one, very good We do try our best!! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toyotasuprauk Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Loads of comments about this on the BBC, this one sticks out the most to me: The pope should finally admit the fairytales have had their day. It is no accident that the church only has a hold in societies where ignorance and superstition still prevail. As more people become educated and are able to think for themselves instead of being brainwashed by religious dogma, the less credibilty religion has. Contraception bans are simply a way of increasing the catholic headcount; bans on abortion are because the church can't stomach women being able to control their lives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 I think that you guys are too cynical to discuss things like religion. There was absolutely no point in starting this thread Michael, I thought better of you. If you wanted to take piss of Pope, who is (like it or not) leader and mentor of quite big religious group, you should use google. There is a lot of like those giving their "opinion" in this thread already. AIDS, kids on streets, chavs, thiefs, all scum smashing others property is product of this "open-minded, developed countries" with a****s producing another pointless, but "modern", "in spirit of times" law, which bites you back faster then you can realise. If you would follow ALL catholic religion (or christians) belives, those things would prolly happen anyway, but NOT in huge scale, like it is happening right now all over a world. Poverty is not effect of religion or Pope's opinion, Brasil is one of most exploited countries in whole world, thanks to "open minded, developed" countries like UK and other old Europe countries. It is "money talk" all the time and all the way. About Vatican city - I guess, you also found out, how many people living in this country, if 3 people would happen to die there as an effect of murder, you would prolly get pretty high criminal killing rate in nation scale Disclaimer: I was grown in catholic religion family, this did not kill me, not made me poor, prolly gave me good base to respect others and learnt me humility. Catholic and evangelical churches are very similiar, I cannot understand all this picking on Pope. Remember, that one of the reasons your country is evangelical is because one of your freaking king wanted to poke more than one lass (let's talk about spreading diseases and kids on street ) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted May 14, 2007 Share Posted May 14, 2007 Loads of comments about this on the BBC, this one sticks out the most to me: The pope should finally admit the fairytales have had their day. It is no accident that the church only has a hold in societies where ignorance and superstition still prevail. As more people become educated and are able to think for themselves instead of being brainwashed by religious dogma, the less credibilty religion has. Contraception bans are simply a way of increasing the catholic headcount; bans on abortion are because the church can't stomach women being able to control their lives. Suprisingly, most scientists and in general very well educated people are very religious at the same time Religion do not brainwash, it is just people, who do not understand, what priest trying to teach them... About women controlling their live - controll your a** in a first place, find proper partner and there will be no reason to abortion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 most scientists and in general very well educated people are very religious I doubt that is true. catholic religion learnt me humility.Cool. When do you start practising it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 15, 2007 Author Share Posted May 15, 2007 There was absolutely no point in starting this thread Michael. I disagree, we already have a nice friendly discussion going about a topical subject, both sides of the coin are being presented and perhaps one of you will brainwash me into the Catholic faith before long... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul_y3k Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Curruption in Vatican city is not a new thing though. On gaining the papacy Pope Leo 10th was quoted as saying ' god has given us the papacy, now I mean to enjoy it' basically he used his postion of power as would any other dictator. The Catholic churhce made rather a lot of money seling reliquerys (sp) and for a small donation you got to spend less time in limbo. so a pre runner to the cash for peerages then ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 I disagree, we already have a nice friendly discussion going about a topical subject, both sides of the coin are being presented and perhaps one of you will brainwash me into the Catholic faith before long... This is another generalisation - I did say that I grown up in catholic family, in catholic country, yes, I didn't say I'm catholic tho. I'm just pointing out, how you treat this religion, you are showing complete lack of respect to something you do not understand (you just think you do) - noone ever tried to brainwash me, I always had a choice, what I want to belive or what I want to do. You have a choice - noone will single you out just because you stay atheist. Pope is saying, what is right according to religion he represents. You take out "no using condoms, stop abortion" thing to slate him. You seem to forget, that there is a lot more about it, your morals have base in christianity - want it or not, it is passed from parents to children this or that way and England is catholic/evangelic country from around 1000 years. It is all way of conduct - what to do, how to act, how to treat others. Do not base your opinion on one fact. Once again - catholic faith is nothing different from evangelical one... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted May 15, 2007 Share Posted May 15, 2007 Would you like to see the pope on the end of a rope? Do you think he's a fool? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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