Gaz Walker Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Following Chris's post on the TOTB IV thread, we can confirm that the GTR Register is withdrawing from this year's TOTB. We have one fundamental issue which we have not been able to resolve with Chris and that is team selection. Since it's inception, 5 years ago, we have won the team event 3 times and had the individual champion 4 times. We have been by far the most successful team in the event. We have always had the 'privilege' of being able to select our own team and, until now, we have had no external pressures put upon this selection process. It was decided that the team selection for 2007 would be a joint process with the organiser of the event, Chris. We believe that it is unheard of that an event organiser (of any event) has a hand in individual competitor selection within a team. Despite many weeks of negotiations, reasoning, offers and discussions, we finally reached a stalemate whereby that privilege was no longer negotiable and had been withdrawn from us. No other team which is entering or ever has entered TOTB has had such a draconian measure enforced upon them and we have unanimously decided to withdraw from the event this year. There are others issues, such as safety, which have been discussed fruitlessly for years but our main reason for withdrawing is explained above. We would like to extend our best wishes to all those competing this year and hope that it is successful for them and above all, a safe event. Oh dear... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 How bizarre. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Gives you a better chance mate:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Good on them for standing up to the TOTB organisers. (I'm using the word organisers in the loosest possible sense) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I can't find the TOTB thread featuring the post from 'Chris' that sparked the withdrawal thread. Anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guigsy Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 id comment but i dont know what totb is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 id comment but i dont know what totb is http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=TOTB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 I can't find the TOTB thread featuring the post from 'Chris' that sparked the withdrawal thread. Anyone? Theres a few, this is one: http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/72421-totb-vi.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I can't find the TOTB thread featuring the post from 'Chris' that sparked the withdrawal thread. Anyone? http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/75247-gtr-register-withdrawal-totb-iv-explanation.html And: http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/72421-totb-vi.html Just sounds like Chris has decided to follow my lead with the combined club MR2 team Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/75248-gtr-register-withdrawal-totb-iv-explanation.html That still mentions "Chris' post in the TOTB thread". Where is that post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 That still mentions "Chris' post in the TOTB thread". Where is that post? I'm not going through every TOTB thread on the site just because you can't be arsed to. The linked threads have a bit of history in them, enough to get an idea of what's been going on anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I'm not going through every TOTB thread on the site just because you can't be arsed to. The linked threads have a bit of history in them, enough to get an idea of what's been going on anyway. I've found them now, you big stropper. I wasn't logged in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/75247-gtr-register-withdrawal-totb-iv-explanation.html And: http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/upload/72421-totb-vi.html Just sounds like Chris has decided to follow my lead with the combined club MR2 team WTF? Those links take me to "you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation." but I have an account and can view the regular forum threads. Odd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I've found them now, you big stropper. I wasn't logged in. Post the links then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Post the links then It's the same link that you edited into your post, smart-arse. If you'd just been a bit quicker....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 WTF? Those links take me to "you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons:Your user account may not have sufficient privileges to access this page. Are you trying to edit someone else's post, access administrative features or some other privileged system? If you are trying to post, the administrator may have disabled your account, or it may be awaiting activation."but I have an account and can view the regular forum threads. Odd. That's what I had. When I logged in (again?) it all worked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 WTF? Those links take me to "you do not have permission to access this page. This could be due to one of several reasons: No idea, I'm logged in with a cached cookie and can still get to them using those links so they haven't been moved anywhere or deleted... perhaps they don't like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 perhaps they don't like you.That's a bit hard to believe. Must be something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted May 7, 2007 Author Share Posted May 7, 2007 That's a bit hard to believe. Must be something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 well thats a doozy. At least that gives back a nice big bit of pit lane as always its a shame to lose fast cars but if Chris Mann wants to run his event that way then the GTR team have to like it or lump it. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 IIUI correctly Chris is saying they (GTROC) can still enter ten cars if they want - in ADDITION to the SOC entering their own ten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Looks to me like they're bending over backwards to accomodate the Skyline guys. IIUI, the whole concept of the event is the best 10 of each marque competes against each other. Not the best 10 from each club. If the Skyline community can't get together and come up with a single entry list of 10 cars, then it's down to them. I mean how does it work with us and .co.uk? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 I mean how does it work with us and .co.uk? Yeah but .co.uk haven't got 10 Supras between them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Branners Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 Yeah but .co.uk haven't got 10 Supras between them. you slay me. JB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted May 7, 2007 Share Posted May 7, 2007 In my experience from other track events, GTR owners are often primadonnas anyway (there are a few notable exceptions) - they spend gajillions on their cars, and believe that makes them somehow better than everyone else. So what if they aren't there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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