uncle kev Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Hi all. Iv been to look at a supe today and would apreciate your views on the asking price. Its a K plate Jspec TT in black, totaly stock with 103,000kms it looks tidy eccept the odd scratch and small dints. the engine was very quiet and there was no funny noises. when he first fired it up there was a bit of white smoke but it has not been run for 4 - 5 weeks. the interior looked ok and the engine bay was quite clean.and the oil lookes fresh. I had a go and it picked up well but there seemed to be a bit of lag in 3rd at 3000rpm untill it reached 4000rpm then it was ok. Its still got the restrictor on. he wants £9000. he says it would easily sell for 11k but he sells at trade. what do you all recon ?!?!? thanks in advance.. kev... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Is it an Auto or Manual? That's not a bad price for a manual, I wouldn't say it was trade price but too bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by uncle kev when he first fired it up there was a bit of white smoke but it has not been run for 4 - 5 weeks. I'd go back and see the car first thing in the morning (not necessarily tomorrow morning) to see if it makes the same smoke when the car has been stood for several hours, it might be that the valve stem oil seals are worn (£1000+ job) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle kev Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 Its a manual. It didnt smoke once it had been running for a while. I cant really go back in the morning as its in liverpool and im in rotherham. its a good 1 and a half hours drive !! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by uncle kev Its a manual. Good. Not a bad buy in that case. Black is the most desirable colout too. It didnt smoke once it had been running for a while. Smoke from valve stem seal leakage only shows itself for a few seconds after the car has been standing for several hours. It's not the end of the world if the seals are on their way out. I cant really go back in the morning as its in liverpool and im in rotherham. its a good 1 and a half hours drive !! You can't buy the car without going back, can you? Just get there early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Worn valve stem seals will usually show bluey smoke and smell of oil. But as Jake said, it's not a massive problem. If it was farily cold when the car was first started, a bit of clear/white smoke shouldn't be a problem providing it's only once at cold start, and clears within a few seconds/minutes. £9k doesn't sound too bad for a manual if it's in good condition generally. Not bargain of the century, but not bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Originally posted by Matt Harwood Worn valve stem seals will usually show bluey smoke and smell of oil. But as Jake said, it's not a massive problem. If it was farily cold when the car was first started, a bit of clear/white smoke shouldn't be a problem I don't think I've ever seen Clear smoke Mine certainly smokes more white than blue but I presume that's due to the condensation as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neilg Posted August 25, 2004 Share Posted August 25, 2004 Isnt white smoke generally turbos? You normally get it sat ticking over? just a suggestion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uncle kev Posted August 25, 2004 Author Share Posted August 25, 2004 Iv just remembered, there was a bit of water that dripped from the exhaust. atleast I think it was ! it was a bit brown in colour and was odourless . Jake: I dont think im that interested to travel back down there, the more I think about it the more I think I could get a better package, i.e. some half decent wheels etc, as the ones on it were absolute dog shit ! plus you'v put the shits up me with that valve stem oil seal talk:p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_TC Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 A bit of white smoke on start up is normally just a bit of condensation, absolutely nothing to worry about, I'd imagine 90% of cars do it. Black or blue smoke on the other hand is something to worry about. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by neilg Isnt white smoke generally turbos? You normally get it sat ticking over? just a suggestion White smoke isn't actaully smoke, its steam. As posted above, it'll just be condensation. Or, if your really unlucky, headgasket! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooby_doo_do Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 whats black smoke then ?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by scooby_doo_do whats black smoke then ?? Doesn't it usually means it's running waaay too rich? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by scooby_doo_do whats black smoke then ?? Means ya are driving a diesel??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick_TC Posted August 26, 2004 Share Posted August 26, 2004 Originally posted by dangerous brain Means ya are driving a diesel??? PMSL Yep, normally associated with overfuelling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRACHRIS Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Or valve stem seals or piston rings, not good White smoke is ok but not for long Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Originally posted by SUPRACHRIS Or valve stem seals or piston rings, not good Oil smoke is more blue than black, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRACHRIS Posted August 28, 2004 Share Posted August 28, 2004 Yeah sorry should of said, but black smoke = diesel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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