DaveK Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 When the navy boys and girls were held captive in Iran, one of the stories in the news was whether they were going to release the girl or not. Why should they? In a world where women demand equal rights (and I agree with this) why should they be treated any differently? Am I being unreasonable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Nope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Nope, it annoyed me when on the news they kept mentioning that she "was the only female there". So what? Bully for her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 If anything they should have held on to the woman the longest as the place looks like it needs a bit of a tidy up!! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted April 11, 2007 Author Share Posted April 11, 2007 If anything they should have held on to the woman the longest as the place looks like it needs a bit of a tidy up!! H. (Although I'm not sure that's entirely understanding the concept of equal rights!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 (Although I'm not sure that's entirely understanding the concept of equal rights!). I am just an ignorant man apparently!! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 They like everyone in the armed forces signed on the dotted line, fair enough they have admitted they do not get special "hostage" training as such, but they knew the risks involved by being in a job that they knew could be sent to an area that could be hostile territory. Does equal opportunities only apply to non armed forces people? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I think to be honest that was media hype. Since she's been on TV and told her story I don't think she was all 'I'm the only girl let me go'. However, the fact that she was in Iran and they don't exactly have equal rights for men and women like we do, she was probably more vulnerable than them. It doesn't make her have more of a right though blah blah blah. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I think to be honest that was media hype. Since she's been on TV and told her story I don't think she was all 'I'm the only girl let me go'. However, the fact that she was in Iran and they don't exactly have equal rights for men and women like we do, she was probably more vulnerable than them. It doesn't make her have more of a right though blah blah blah. you're on early tonight Char. you finished making Mike's tea and doing the dishes already? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 you're on early tonight Char. you finished making Mike's tea and doing the dishes already? Should be a good reply coming... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 you're on early tonight Char. you finished making Mike's tea and doing the dishes already? No that's your job, Louise tells me you're so good at it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 No that's your job, Louise tells me you're so good at it. ah touche Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Oi get my tea made woman! /vbb/images/smilies/bbcode_angry.gif Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Oi get my tea made woman! /vbb/images/smilies/bbcode_angry.gif need to keep the chain to the kitchen shorter than the distance to the laptop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 need to keep the chain to the kitchen shorter than the distance to the laptop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 need to keep the chain to the kitchen shorter than the distance to the laptop I only let Mike make sexist remarks, I'll sort him out later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I only let Mike make sexist remarks, I'll sort him out later. i was just kidding anyway, i know it's him that's chained to the kitchen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 Anyway thanks Dave, you've managed to help display the attitude of the men here. Now back to the topic, she shouldn't get different treatment, no. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted April 11, 2007 Share Posted April 11, 2007 I getting f#cked off seeing that woman on the front page of every paper or hearing about her on the news, I bet the rest of the Navy are too. You watch, she will waltz around like a celeb, get shit from other members of the navy, become unhappy, then sue the arse off the MOD for being unhappy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaoriFan Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 argh, i can't stand her, what did she do to encourage people to want to interview her anyway, she got captured (sarcasm). Anyone notice how when she was captured she had such a hard time of it, could even smoke a cigarette. Is is still name, rank, serial in the forces when captured, and not 'i will write this letter' as i am so hard done by, and want to see my daughter. If she was that worried maybe she should not have joined up in the first place and stayed at home. Considering other members of the forces who are in the true front line each and every day, she did nothing. There are both men and women living in the constant danger of getting blown up each day and they put up with lot more. ok, maybe i would have more sympathy if she had stood there armed firing to the last shot at the Iranian forces and then started hitting them after that. but they didn't fire a shot. I am sure this will go down well with ex-service people or even current ones who would stand there until the last round is spent. There reasoning was crap, imo. the excuse they outnumbered us and we had no chance of winning, well, maybe if they had tried the Iranians may have backed off. maybe someone in the Navy can explain when they said HMS Cornwall could not go further into the waters due to the depth, and so our forces got captured, they could not send a shot from the 4.5inch across the Iranian's. Are our ROE that crap. final point, really puts into context the only serving soldier to win the VC when you compare his press coverage to hers. oh well, rant over for the morning, ja ne Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted April 12, 2007 Author Share Posted April 12, 2007 I agree - she is very irritating. What annoyed me was when the whole "should they get paid for their stories" thing was kicking off and she said "I don't think there's anything wrong with that because I want to put my side of the story across". Yeah - but at least one of the others managed that, but didn't take all the cash. She was also adamant that "a percentage" of the money was going to the boat - bet it wasn't a very big percentage. I give it 6 months before she's taking her top off to pose on the cover of FHM or something just to stay in the public eye. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaoriFan Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 oh yeah, another thing, did you hear one of the sailor's that was captured. He said when they were released they were given the 'goodie-bag' and it was useless stuff. He then went on to say that it did not cover the cost of the iPod the Iranians stole off him. Is it just me that thinks it is strange someone on an active operation and boarding boats can carry an iPod with them. how can he get time to listen to music, when his first priority is being a sailor, as that's what he is paid for. rant 2 over with ja ne Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KaoriFan Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I agree - she is very irritating. What annoyed me was when the whole "should they get paid for their stories" thing was kicking off and she said "I don't think there's anything wrong with that because I want to put my side of the story across". Yeah - but at least one of the others managed that, but didn't take all the cash. She was also adamant that "a percentage" of the money was going to the boat - bet it wasn't a very big percentage. I give it 6 months before she's taking her top off to pose on the cover of FHM or something just to stay in the public eye. true, why did they need to want to get paid, if they are 'honourable' people, they should tell it for free. Or, at least, donate it to the four who got killed the other day, or the sergeants family who got killed due to lack of body armour, or the one's killed by the US in friendly fire. 'a percentage' of her money, wow, wonder how much. the FHM issue would be a scary thought, would need a NBC suit i think Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robbo Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 I agree, i was sick of hearing her name on the tv to be honest, it seemed as if it was all about her for f**ks sake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraStar 3000 Posted April 12, 2007 Share Posted April 12, 2007 No point denying it. A female POW or hostage is in a VERY different position to her male counter-part when under integration or torture and therefore I honestly think no females should be put in a situation in which capture is possible ie. front line in a war zone. Thats not being 'sexest'. Its just a sad fact. Female soilders are perfectly capable and I have no doubt are more than equal in the mental and physical aspects of the armed forces, but the threat of interrogation, questioning and abuse must be seriously considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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