CH4 - Passion of the Christ

[penguin]

I'd be interested to hear more from you on this one, especially the bit about "scientific knowing" - could this be the attack I anticipated by simply being open and honest?

 

 

 

I haven't seen anyone say that, I've seen people suggest alternative options, different thinking and varied thought but I only see one person refusing to accept that alternative answers may exist.

 

 

 

You aren't allowing those with the desire to debate to do so, you are bombarding them with masses of text in an attempt to smother them and appear more intelligent, if this fails you resort to making attacks on their input.

 

 

 

All you have is a book and lots of theory, why shouldn't others who approach this subject with the same sort of ammo also get an opportunity to put their point forward?

 

 

 

I only see one person getting stressed out here.

 

 

 

What would make *you* happy?

 

Keyboard Terrorist

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Guys on a more serious note, allow the bickering - sometimes lifes just too damn short to enlighten anyone else of something only we ourselves truly understand anyway - you're all wrong "real evolution" is a product of creationism"

[Charlotte]

 

Guys on a more serious note, allow the bickering - sometimes lifes just too damn short to enlighten anyone else of something only we ourselves truly understand anyway - you're all wrong "real evolution" is a product of creationism"

 

I've just read the whole thread back and the only person that has been bickering throughout is Mr Groover.

 

(Oh and you a little).

 

I am incredulous to the fact that although I have posted the odd comment here and there, because I don't subscribe to god creating the earth (oh and just so you know, I'm not a 'science' person) I have to be shouted down for having an opinion oh and obviously being a girl.

 

I swear some of the posts in the thread remind me an awful lot of Mark E Smith.

 

The thing that makes me laugh the most is that the bible that he is quoting from talks about loving thy neighbour, doing unto others etc etc. He clearly has forgotten all this as he is quick to insult practically anyone that opposes him in some way.

 

Fair play for believing, keep on keeping on. Just argue your point fairly and constructively.

[Thorin]

because I don't subscribe to god creating the earth

 

Right then, sod you all, I'm not bothering creating Earth mkII now It was going to be bigger and faster as well

[Chiefgroover]

 

 

The thing that makes me laugh the most is that the bible that he is quoting from talks about loving thy neighbour, doing unto others etc etc. He clearly has forgotten all this as he is quick to insult practically anyone that opposes him in some way.

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Keep it in the context i wrote it, I didnt say thats how I work I mearly pointed out that its written.

 

This is the general pattern here, bits of threads taken and quoted out of context. A favourite of the pack when hunting.

[penguin]

Right then, sod you all, I'm not bothering creating Earth mkII now It was going to be bigger and faster as well

 

was it going to have dildo shaped light? and bigger typhoons? ceramic or steel crust?

[penguin]

I've just read the whole thread back and the only person that has been bickering throughout is Mr Groover.

 

(Oh and you a little).

 

I am incredulous to the fact that although I have posted the odd comment here and there, because I don't subscribe to god creating the earth (oh and just so you know, I'm not a 'science' person) I have to be shouted down for having an opinion oh and obviously being a girl.

 

I swear some of the posts in the thread remind me an awful lot of Mark E Smith.

 

The thing that makes me laugh the most is that the bible that he is quoting from talks about loving thy neighbour, doing unto others etc etc. He clearly has forgotten all this as he is quick to insult practically anyone that opposes him in some way.

 

Fair play for believing, keep on keeping on. Just argue your point fairly and constructively.

 

and who the heck is markesmith?

[Al Massey]

i think people are taking this far too seriously:noangel:

[penguin]

i think people are taking this far too seriously:noangel:

 

who the hell asked for your opinion

[Al Massey]

be nice

[SupraStar 3000]

Right then, sod you all, I'm not bothering creating Earth mkII now It was going to be bigger and faster as well

 

that made me laugh!

 

btw: God, Isn't it about time you gave me Eve.

Its been far to long and my biological clock is ticking.

 

Porn and the internet was by far your 'finest hour' but I want the next step now.

 

Thanks for listening.

Good job on the Supra too.

That was a pure work of genius.

 

Amen

[Scoboblio]

if your going to attck my views I am entitled to defend them.

 

Exactly right, which is why when I see statements like "EVOLUTION IS IMPOSSIBLE" and Darwin's theory is "a fast moving and deadly poison", I like to speak up.

 

One thing still confuses me, if you were an evolutionist who studied and discovered it to be rubbish, why were you asking such basic questions as how did fish make it out of the sea, and how did animal XYZ evolve?

[colsoop]

A humorous but relevant view via a banana

 

 

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[Scoboblio]

That wasn't serious.......was it?

[matt k]

Theory is fact when you believe it to be, or so it seems in your world?

 

Rev Michael of great scientific knowing.........I hear you, and its the same old same old, time and again.

 

The stars, lots of theory, no proof.

 

Just waiting for the "WE Believe", "Assuming" and "IN theory" to explain it. Sorry folks but that not enough to convince me.

 

ON this forum it seems I dont have the right to hold an opinion formed on my reasearch. It doesnt match up with your so I am mad? what fabulous reasoning you have, if you want to believe in evolution, yippee!! good for you, but if you cant debate what you believe then I think thats pretty grim.

 

Using theory to try and prove a point? eer eemm I think thats where facts come into it, and you dont have much do you?

 

OK sort it out between yourselves, it CLEAR from the attitude here your open to nothing but your own thoughts, do I care? not a bit, but I did enjoy the debate until most of you started to get all hot and bothered about it.

 

If it makes you happy..........then thats fine with me.

 

God seemed to care more in the olden days;

Look at the whoop ass he handed out to the Eygptians for their mistreating of the Jews, yet Hitler managed to get away with it!

[mathew]

I have rarely seen such forced opinions anywhere in my life (great example of mind control), .

 

 

ive being doing a lot of looking into mind control techniques and the like lately, long story i wont go there, and in my opinion the greatest mind control ive ever been subjected to was the religious education classes during my school life and all the prayers we had to do at certain times of the day. that is mind control my friend especially having it done at such a young and impressionable age. this is a forum, no one is trying to control your mind or force opinions on you.

 

....look into my eyes, not around the eyes......

[Kittyclaws]

Well I have read most of the start of this thread, and would be here all bloody day if I read all of it, so hopefully What I say now has not been already said. First off, I would like to say that I believe in some form of great being, be that a God or what ever.I have yet to read the bible which i have a copy off(king james v version) but I do know that the bible has parts you have to take with a pinch of salt. Yes there was a Jesus during that time, in fact there was two

 

the jesus we know of was known as Jesus the messiah. messiah means king of the jews, or king to be,king in waiting

 

now this is the good bit. Barrabbas was released instead of jesus. the word Barabbus was not his name but a title which means son of god, his full name is given in early manuscripts (matthew verse 27:16) as Jesus Barabbus. so you had

Jesus ,king of the Jews

Jesus ,son of God

[RedM]

Martin take a look at your own posts, its sniper fire at its best, hardly the writings of an educated man who claims to have read the bible six times, that sir is a lie, as you have NO knowledge of it whatsoever. You probably have spent more time reading the phone directory.

 

Don't ever call me a liar. It's the truth and if you don't like it, come to JAE and I'll shove two of the three Bibles I own up your arse.

 

Great wisdom Martin, another fab contribution. Now your stuck for an answer so we go down the silly route. tut tut

 

That is from a record called 'Play More Music' by a band called Consolidated. At every gig they pass the mic to the audience who can ask questions, heckle, spout rubbish etc. These are all recorded and used between tracks on each album. One segment is from a woman who basically says they (Consolidated) are going to Hell for their atheism and one of the band says "yeah, with a big wad of Tofu". The quote was probably lost on every member on here but so what.

 

FWIW, before finally coming to terms with my inner Atheist I looked into a lot of other religions searching for answers. I've even lived in a Krishna temple (W. Lunt Avenue, Chicago, USA) for a few weeks. I'm still intrigued (but not as a believer) in Zen Buddhism and Shinto. So, please, have at me with more accusations of close-mindedness.

[Kittyclaws]

Oh and I thought that Mel Gibson's remake of the film Life of Brian was quite poor, I did not laugh one bit when I watched it

 

That was a joke by the way

[RedM]

Oh and I thought that Mel Gibson's remake of the film Life of Brian was quite poor, I did not laugh one bit when I watched it

 

That was a joke by the way

 

Blasphemer! Blasphemer! Stone him.....

[DaveK]

This thread is hilarious. I've read a few comments I agree with (RedM, Michael and SonicScoop so it shouldn't be hard to guess my view).

 

I skimmed the last few pages - but as far as I can see, the logic is : You can't prove evolution (and there are flaws in it) therefore God and the bible must be true? Interesting point of view.

 

There is always one part of religion that has confused me somewhat. Doesn't the bible tell me I shouldn't be vain? But the omnipitent God that made the world the universe etc. etc. needs me to worship him? Doesn't really seem to fit.

[Ewen]

If the bible was a first hand account of the events and characters it describes, then maybe it would have a little credence. As it stands, it is merely a collection of anecdotes that have gone through various stages of translation and interpretation.

I'm sure that science and technology will one day prove that many characters and events therein are based on fact, but that will not in itself prove the fundemental basis of the religion that the bible represents. I can quite easily believe that Jesus, Noah, David etc etc existed, and that they became folklore for whatever reasons that were important to the masses at the time (would Ghandi or Elvis have been labelled the son of god in ancient, less knowledeable times ?).

What I have a problem with is that the accepted interpretation of this game of chinese whispers that has gone on for millenia, is so willingly taken as factual evidence of a creator or god. Nonsense such as Eve being created from the rib of Adam, and that all mankind are descendants of their incestuous offspring is frankly laughable, yet millions of intelligent people willingly subscribe to the story, simply because they have been taught it as if it were fact, so it must be true.

It is possible to lead a good life following the values extolled by christianity and other religions, without being blackmailed into becoming 'a believer' by the fear of eternal damnation in the fires of hell. Some find it easy, but obviously some need the carrot of everlasting afterlife in heaven to keep them on the path of decent, caring, generous humanity.

[RedM]

This thread is hilarious. I've read a few comments I agree with (RedM, Michael and SonicScoop so it shouldn't be hard to guess my view).

 

I skimmed the last few pages - but as far as I can see, the logic is : You can't prove evolution (and there are flaws in it) therefore God and the bible must be true? Interesting point of view.

 

There is always one part of religion that has confused me somewhat. Doesn't the bible tell me I shouldn't be vain? But the omnipitent God that made the world the universe etc. etc. needs me to worship him? Doesn't really seem to fit.

 

Ask Cheifgroover about God's omniscience vs free will for his subjects.

 

I like this page simply because the writer style amuses me. Good points though.

[CJ]

I used to be omnipotent but the doctor gave me pills and it works really well now

[MrHanky]

I used to be omnipotent but the doctor gave me pills and it works really well now

 

LMAO

[Jezz]

I know someone with a DeLorian. I'll go and see for myself then post up my findings when i get back. Ok i'm back. My findings are........Marylin Monroe was shit in bed.