Ark Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 didnt mkivstore do a na LPG conversion last year? There were many claims, but never any proof. Personally I'd have loved it to be true because I was still in my NA at the time. But I never saw any photos or dynos to show it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 You say it smells, but so does petrol?! Petrol vapour is more flammable and dangerous than LPG, so the 'danger' issue is incorrect. I got a factory-fitted LPG Astra so I can use it in the london congestion zone for free. The performance is the same as petrol, but £20 for a tank, not £40/50 like it would be for petrol. The only downsides I see are finding someone to service it, but just like finding someone to fix my supra, once I've found someone competent then it's not an issue any more. Also not all garages sell the stuff, but again once you know where they are, then problem solved. You can always run on petrol if you run out of LPG anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 You say it smells, but so does petrol?! Petrol vapour is more flammable and dangerous than LPG, so the 'danger' issue is incorrect. I got a factory-fitted LPG Astra so I can use it in the london congestion zone for free. The performance is the same as petrol, but £20 for a tank, not £40/50 like it would be for petrol. The only downsides I see are finding someone to service it, but just like finding someone to fix my supra, once I've found someone competent then it's not an issue any more. Also not all garages sell the stuff, but again once you know where they are, then problem solved. You can always run on petrol if you run out of LPG anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 Petrol vapour is more flammable and dangerous than LPG, so the 'danger' issue is incorrect. Why don't they let you on the channel tunnel with it then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 lpg supra anyone? Yes me!! Havard has LPG on his NA. It keeps cutting out on him at the moment though Mike Thanks Mike. Yes I have an LPG conversion but tbh I have hardly used it and when I come to a stop the car cuts out. If I'm on a motorway then you can switch over fine, but when in town it's a pain in the arse. It seems to flood the engine as there is an awful smell of fuel just after it has cut out. Is there anyone in the NW who is good with these? I am not sure whether to keep it or rip it out... H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Petrol vapour is more flammable and dangerous than LPG, so the 'danger' issue is incorrect. Is it lighter or heavier than air, though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Yes me!! Thanks Mike. Yes I have an LPG conversion but tbh I have hardly used it and when I come to a stop the car cuts out. If I'm on a motorway then you can switch over fine, but when in town it's a pain in the arse. It seems to flood the engine as there is an awful smell of fuel just after it has cut out. Is there anyone in the NW who is good with these? I am not sure whether to keep it or rip it out... H. running too rich depending on what system you have fitted, there is normally a "knob" you can turn ( ) to adjust the mixture Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Is it lighter or heavier than air, though? heavier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Why don't they let you on the channel tunnel with it then? No reason, just ignorance and paranoia on the part of the tunnel authorities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 running too rich depending on what system you have fitted, there is normally a "knob" you can turn ( ) to adjust the mixture I wouldn't know there to start tbh!! The only knob in my car is usually me! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 heavier Hmmm. Maybe its more to do with the fact that petrol's natural state at usual ambient temps is liquid, then? If you had a leaky petrol tank and a leaky LPG tank side by side, I doubt there would be much of an argument over which was the bigger fire hazard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted April 5, 2007 Author Share Posted April 5, 2007 No reason, just ignorance and paranoia on the part of the tunnel authorities Or their insurance company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Hmmm. Maybe its more to do with the fact that petrol's natural state at usual ambient temps is liquid, then? If you had a leaky petrol tank and a leaky LPG tank side by side, I doubt there would be much of an argument over which was the bigger fire hazard. hehe leaking lpg tank would deffo cause a bigger BANG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guru Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Yes me!! Thanks Mike. Yes I have an LPG conversion but tbh I have hardly used it and when I come to a stop the car cuts out. If I'm on a motorway then you can switch over fine, but when in town it's a pain in the arse. It seems to flood the engine as there is an awful smell of fuel just after it has cut out. Is there anyone in the NW who is good with these? I am not sure whether to keep it or rip it out... H. The person I spoke to with the Aristo TT LPG was just around the corner from the Shell at Burnden Park in Bolton. Not sure of the company but I think he means further towards the A666 in this link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 The person I spoke to with the Aristo TT LPG was just around the corner from the Shell at Burnden Park in Bolton. Not sure of the company but I think he means further towards the A666 in this link I'll have a search on yell.com. Wasn't overly bothered about it until I saw this thread!! The tank is only small on mine, good for about 60 - 80 miles or so... H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RICHARDA Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I used to install these systems until this week. The kits we used were BRC systems (Italian) and very good too. Basically, mixer systems for anything with a carb and electronic injector systems for multi point injection. Anyone who has an installation and wants them servicing should call Arun Auto Gas (AAG) in Littlehampton, W,Sx. 01903 715715 and tell them Richard recommended them. Any Q's please ask away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I was quoted 1800 quid to get an LPG system fitted to my TT (Birmingham Autos IIRC). Still haven't decided whether to get it done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hogmaw Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I was quoted 1800 quid to get an LPG system fitted to my TT (Birmingham Autos IIRC). Still haven't decided whether to get it done. Assuming you're just doing it to save money, you have to work out how many miles you will have to do at say 95p a litre against 40p a litre (assuming same miles per litre) to make it worth it in the long run. It will probably take a few years, and that is assuming the government don't slap tax on LPG. They did that with diesel, once upon a time diesel was way less expensive than petrol, SO people bought diesel cars - now diesel costs MORE than petrol! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPRASUZUKI Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Yes mate, I remember when Diesel was cheaper than petrol. You're right though, you need to work out the break-even point based on your milage. I reckon it'd take me about 4 years to be in credit (assuming Dick Turpin aka Gordon Brown doesn't remove the tax break). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I used to install these systems until this week. The kits we used were BRC systems (Italian) and very good too. Basically, mixer systems for anything with a carb and electronic injector systems for multi point injection. Anyone who has an installation and wants them servicing should call Arun Auto Gas (AAG) in Littlehampton, W,Sx. 01903 715715 and tell them Richard recommended them. Any Q's please ask away. Is there any one in the north that you would recommend Richard?? H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Gas instalations are VERY popular in Poland - installing good one in reputable garage costs around 800 pounds. There is no known issues with those instalations, running is cheap as chips. Problem in England is, that people usually changing cars here every 2-3 years, so if car is not company car or taxi, investment will HARDLY return. Also lack of gas pumps on gas stations can be a problem. Other than that (and bullshit about danger of explosion in garages or ferries) I have no idea, why is this so unpopular here. There is also few projects to convert cars to gas we using in our cookers and central heating. I belive in works already in US, there is few companies there renting mobile gas pumps you can connect at your house and tank your car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyT Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Brazil's well into lpg too. They take eco friendly seriously and the government is savvy. Our's is a bunch of robbin gits into short term not long term investment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted April 6, 2007 Share Posted April 6, 2007 Brazil's well into lpg too. They take eco friendly seriously and the government is savvy. Our's is a bunch of robbin gits into short term not long term investment. And bio fuels. They've been using E20 for well over a decade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gsw Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hi, sorry have only just seen this, My Aristo TT is running LPG and has been running it for around 4 years now roughly speaking i can get 240 miles for £18.Because the LPG is rated at 105 octaine it also produces more power on LPG. I am currently going down the BPU route and have orderd a kit capable of running over 400 bhp i will let you know soon how it goes. If any body is considering getting this done you need to make sure the conversion place is competent with high power turbo cars and they are LPGA registerd.Regurding the the filling station issue LPG is availble nearly every where now the reason you dont see them is because you arnt looking for them but when you have LPG you will be suprised at how many filling stations there are that will be local to you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted April 16, 2007 Share Posted April 16, 2007 Hi, sorry have only just seen this, My Aristo TT is running LPG and has been running it for around 4 years now roughly speaking i can get 240 miles for £18.Because the LPG is rated at 105 octaine it also produces more power on LPG. I am currently going down the BPU route and have orderd a kit capable of running over 400 bhp i will let you know soon how it goes. If any body is considering getting this done you need to make sure the conversion place is competent with high power turbo cars and they are LPGA registerd.Regurding the the filling station issue LPG is availble nearly every where now the reason you dont see them is because you arnt looking for them but when you have LPG you will be suprised at how many filling stations there are that will be local to you. Surely it cant be as good as that?? I would have thought on a supra, you would save so much money it would pay for itself very quickly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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