Guest FKARichie-Supra-R Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Hi folks, New to the site and ive been interested in buying a Supra for some time now. Not too many in the Irish market so im looking at importing a UK spec model or importing directly from Japan Myself. Ideally im after a Black Twin Turbo, manual or auto. Im looking for a price guide for a particular supra if anyone would mind telling me if its over/under priced and what i should be paying id be very greatful. 1994 TOYOTA SUPRA 3.0 Turbo 3dr Auto Liftback 79k miles, 326 BHP (not 280 like the imports), Exterior is standard and in prestine cond, Full Hide cream leather interior, Full Toyota Service History, Long M.O.T, Six months Tax, Recently serviced with new alarm Car is standard with no after market parts. Can someone give me an idea of what i should be paying for this in £sterling, would 10,000k be too high?? Many thanks, any advice appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 It is too high... Even for UK version. I would say it is worth 8k maximum Contact Jurgen from our forum (he is importer) or CJ (he is usually selling Supras already registered in UK) - both in trader section of this forum, both have very good opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 1994 TOYOTA SUPRA 3.0 Turbo 3dr Auto Liftback 79k miles, 326 BHP (not 280 like the imports), Exterior is standard and in prestine cond, Full Hide cream leather interior, Full Toyota Service History, Long M.O.T, Six months Tax, Recently serviced with new alarm Car is standard with no after market parts. Can someone give me an idea of what i should be paying for this in £sterling, would 10,000k be too high?? It's £9450, isn't it? You could get yourself a nice manual j-spec for that kind of money. I know which I'd rather have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FKARichie-Supra-R Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Yea, Supra Dupra from the site has been giving me loads of advice. Im going to go manual if i can, just that particular car is mint! Ideally looking for a 1994-98 Black TT manual, UK/J-spec, with cream leather interior or a 1994-98 Black TT auto Targa/Aero, UK/J-spec with cream leather interior Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Like I was saying your best bet is manual, because at the end of the day its easier shift on, autos are even harder sell over ourside of the pond. Also you'll have a wider choice when you dont restrict yourself to uk spec only, which more than likely have higher mileage. Like konio-nt said chat with jurgen, and have a peek around the for sale section aswell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy Supra Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Cream leather interiors will limit the search down a fair bit. As for imports as far as I'm aware imports are 326bhp. Only reason they were listed as 280bhp was due to a gentlemans agreement between Nissan and few other companies and the government where they agree'd not to produce cars over this power therefore listed it at 280bhp even though it was more. Sure some of the more clue'd up members can confirm or dis-approve that but there not on at 4.41am Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads274 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 To be honest i dont think thats too expensive. It's a uk car and 79k is low for uk's. Plus if it has FTSH then it's gonna keep going for a long, long time. Looking at the pics it seems to be in a1 condition and obviously you'd knock him down a bit on the price, probably 9k. I think its worth a look personally Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FKARichie-Supra-R Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Cream leather interiors will limit the search down a fair bit. As for imports as far as I'm aware imports are 326bhp. Only reason they were listed as 280bhp was due to a gentlemans agreement between Nissan and few other companies and the government where they agree'd not to produce cars over this power therefore listed it at 280bhp even though it was more. Sure some of the more clue'd up members can confirm or dis-approve that but there not on at 4.41am Question on the Hide Cream leather interior? if this doesnt come with the car how much am i looking at speniding roughly to get it? as for the BHP, is it the same on UK/Jspec Supras? Am i better off going for the Uk spec considering the extras they have excluding the generally higher mileage!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads274 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 Question on the Hide Cream leather interior? if this doesnt come with the car how much am i looking at speniding roughly to get it? as for the BHP, is it the same on UK/Jspec Supras? Am i better off going for the Uk spec considering the extras they have excluding the generally higher mileage!? AFAIK cream leather was only sold on UK's therefore i imagine it would be extremely difficult tracking down original bits. Therefore u are limited to uk cars really. BHP is the same on UK/Jspec This is a matter of opinion. Imports have generally been treated much better than uk cars in terms of servicing, mileage is very low on some jspecs whereas uk cars are nearly all at the 100k mark. You get extra goodies with Uk cars such as the headlight washers but its up to you whether or not you're bothered about these. I have a GZ which is the top jspec model. Comes with leather, active spoiler and other goodies. I would look for one of them if you are after leather and all the gizmos. But then again they were only sold with autos. Hope this helps, Richie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 326 BHP (not 280 like the imports),. Are you sure the imports only 280? it was only a gentlemans agreement that they put down 280 but the supra's had more than that 300-320bhp iirc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 I have a stock 94 GZ J spec in silver which will be up for sale very shortly. So active spoiler and full leather, only 70k plus fully serviced eg cambelt all done etc. Ill be putting it up for sale in the low sixes. So bear that in mind for a price guide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 quick one,, what is 'liftback' all about.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geneb Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 CJ is your man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 quick one,, what is 'liftback' all about.. Auto models, for what reason i dont know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mas Posted April 4, 2007 Share Posted April 4, 2007 if you really looking to pay over 9-10k then you better of having a manual, Im sure a clean 94 auto wont cost more than 7k these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FKARichie-Supra-R Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 if you really looking to pay over 9-10k then you better of having a manual, Im sure a clean 94 auto wont cost more than 7k these days. thats what im thinking... heres one for you lads, long link i know on this link look at the 5th supra down http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.jsp?page=2&searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=&hassearched=Y&make=TOYOTA&min_pr=75&source=0&model=SUPRA&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=&mileage=&postcode=sw19+3rq&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour=2&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=60&ukcarsearch_full.y=8 then on this link look at the 4th Supra down http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.jsp?page=3&searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=&hassearched=Y&make=TOYOTA&min_pr=75&source=0&model=SUPRA&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=&mileage=&postcode=sw19+3rq&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour=2&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=60&ukcarsearch_full.y=8 How can you justify these price differences??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FKARichie-Supra-R Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 I have a stock 94 GZ J spec in silver which will be up for sale very shortly. So active spoiler and full leather, only 70k plus fully serviced eg cambelt all done etc. Ill be putting it up for sale in the low sixes. So bear that in mind for a price guide. Wud you mind pm'ing me the price of which you intend to sell it for, just for guidance as to what im after. Id be interested in looking at yours, but im only after black. Also are GZ jap spec model supras all auto???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Auto models, for what reason i dont know. thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads274 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Also are GZ jap spec model supras all auto???? Yes, except for a minority which have been converted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ads274 Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 thats what im thinking... heres one for you lads, long link i know on this link look at the 5th supra down http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.jsp?page=2&searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=&hassearched=Y&make=TOYOTA&min_pr=75&source=0&model=SUPRA&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=&mileage=&postcode=sw19+3rq&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour=2&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=60&ukcarsearch_full.y=8 then on this link look at the 4th Supra down http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.jsp?page=3&searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=&hassearched=Y&make=TOYOTA&min_pr=75&source=0&model=SUPRA&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=&mileage=&postcode=sw19+3rq&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour=2&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=60&ukcarsearch_full.y=8 How can you justify these price differences??? TBH the owner of the second car must have been smoking something. That's way more than he's gonna get. Compare it with similar car in the for sale section of this site and check out the difference. Even the first one seems over priced itself. Mileage is not stated (which generally means its gonna be high) and it doesn't even state if its a TT or not! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 BHP is the same on UK/Jspec This is a matter of opinion. Imports have generally been treated much better than uk cars in terms of servicing, mileage is very low on some jspecs whereas uk cars are nearly all at the 100k mark. You get extra goodies with Uk cars such as the headlight washers but its up to you whether or not you're bothered about these. BHP is not the same... its very rare that a stock dyno sheet from a half decent rolling road has matched stock UK spec figures... but if he plans on modding it this is irrelevant. Thats a very big assumption re: treatment of the cars... kinda like saying most imports have probably been clocked at some point in their life! There are plenty of nice examples and bad ones from both markets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest FKARichie-Supra-R Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 TBH the owner of the second car must have been smoking something. That's way more than he's gonna get. Compare it with similar car in the for sale section of this site and check out the difference. Even the first one seems over priced itself. Mileage is not stated (which generally means its gonna be high) and it doesn't even state if its a TT or not! well i emailed him with a number of links to similar cars showing that is car is a tad over priced and had it been a manual id be close to paying that and he has basically sent an abusive email back accusing me of being a time waster, etc etc, realistically what price is this car worth??? The black 1994 TT AUTO (6th one down the page) http://atsearch.autotrader.co.uk/www/cars_search.jsp?page=3&searchform=&modelexact=1&lid=search_used_cars_full&photo=1&state=block&sort=&hassearched=Y&make=TOYOTA&min_pr=75&source=0&model=SUPRA&max_pr=&miles=1500&agerange=&mileage=&postcode=sw19+3rq&variant=&bodyid=0&trim=&fuelid=0&colour=2&transmissionid=0&keywords=&ukcarsearch_full.x=50&ukcarsearch_full.y=1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lukeyboy2k Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 Whenever a car is modded (be it performance or just cosmetically) this is normally lost money in my opinion. I don't know particularly much about the mods he's done or whether it is over 350bhp (i'm sure someone will be along soon). Realistically I don't think it's be worth paying 7K for that (provided it is in good condition). I know you really want a black one but there have been some really nice supes for sale here for less than 7K recently, one being a UK spec, and another fully BPU (although I don't think either were black). I know its difficult, but its a waiting game. I'd give the car in the advert a miss purely because of the replies to your emails. Even though summer is approaching I'd still say the buyer has the edge over the seller at the moment. Just as a guide, my car is a 1993 stock RZ Auto with approx 33,000 miles (thought to be genuine considering condition of engine and interior) and I don't think I'd get much over 5K for it (maybe because its silver ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supra-Dupra Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/149053.htm Good deal this. Anyone here own it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted April 5, 2007 Share Posted April 5, 2007 quick one,, what is 'liftback' all about.. All Supras are liftbacks...its just sales speak for the rear hatch as opposed to a boot lid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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