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Saw last night. Great film.

 

Spartons really are elitist b@stards though aren't they?

 

 

 

Greek Mythology which Frank adapted.

 

It is not mythology my friend, battle of Thermopylae is historical fact :) Movie tho is based on comic book. And yea, Spartans was elite kickass soldiers :)

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It is not mythology my friend, battle of Thermopylae is historical fact :) Movie tho is based on comic book. And yea, Spartans was elite kickass soldiers :)

Ok, so there was definitely a battle, but I think the story has probably been slightly embellished hence the mythology part?

A bit like the bible. :sly:

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I'm sure you'd be the same if some crazy bloke turned up trying to sell you rugs and genie outfits. :)

 

I meant the culling of their young with defects and out cast of the hunch back. He only wanted to help!

I'd have told him he was a Spartan representative to fight with the other guys that were on their side and stuck him with that lot.

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He was too weak. He'd have slowed them down. By the looks of things he was only after a bit of lady love anyway.

 

He wasn't weak, just badly protected and not capable of holding a line so wouldn't have slowed the other guys army down if he'd been put them with them like I said as they just rushed in like loonies.

 

Elitist snobs the lot of 'em. Glad they all got killed.

 

Can't believe he missed with the spear at the end - what's that all about?

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The Spartans were the premier Greek military power but as they were only a small city population wise they never managed to conqour and rule all of Greece. That was done by Alexander the Great about 200 or 300 years later.

 

The 'real' story of the battle of Thermopalie (spellink) is that the Persian King, Xersis, wanted to get revenge for the defeat of his father Dionis at the battle of Marathon, (where we get the Marathon run from to day, the battle field was 26.(?) miles from Athens and when it was won a Greek soldier (cant remember his name) ran all the way to the city to give the news, in full armour (about 60lbs) and dropped down dead. They used to do it to celibrate the victory as part of thier Olymipic Games, which they did naked)to gain total control of that part of the world, he had influence there by pitting one city against another but wanted to add it to his empire.

 

The Greek city states were sending an Army to defend the entry to Greece and needed the Spatans to join them and to give them time to assemble but due to some political back stabbing and bribes paid by the Persians the Spartan priests declared that any army going out of the city during the festival of (insert the god's name, I cant remember it) would meet with defeat. So only the battle King Leonidas (they had 2 kings at any 1 time, one was the battle king the other ran the city in his absence) was allowed to leave with his personal body guard of 300 men.

 

They held the pass for 3 days(?) and were only defeated when they were betrayed by members of other Greek cities who showed the Persians a way around the pass so they could be surounded and finished off. The Persian soldiers by now were so frighted of getting in close to the Spartans that they killed them off by arrows and javalins and not in sword combat.

 

The Persian Army then entered Greece and met the allied forces of the rest of the Greek cities in the Polypons(spellink) and when the Persians saw they had 5000 Spartans against them they revolted and killed Xersis and left Greece. The Greeks then followed and invaded Persia but disageeing factions in thier leadership and allies and bribary by the Persians ment they soon had to leave and return to Greece.

 

And if mem serves they fought naked.

 

In the film, to look better, they did not fight the way the Spartans really did, which was in a shild wall, with the short stabbing swords stabbing out through small gaps and overwhelming the enemy. This was basically the same way the Romans used to conqour the world.

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In the film, to look better, they did not fight the way the Spartans really did, which was in a shild wall, with the short stabbing swords stabbing out through small gaps and overwhelming the enemy. This was basically the same way the Romans used to conqour the world.

 

They did do that in the film. Or at least bits of it.

 

And if mem serves they fought naked.

 

Damn! Why didn't they do it how the book said?!

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There is a novel called Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield which is more historically correct and is really well written. There were more like 7000 Greeks in total including Spartan Squires and men from other Greek cities. It was only once the Greeks discovered they had been betrayed that the king invited the non spartans to leave. It is against Spartan law to retreat from battle or surrender, so they remained.

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There is a novel called Gates of Fire by Steven Pressfield which is more historically correct and is really well written. There were more like 7000 Greeks in total including Spartan Squires and men from other Greek cities. It was only once the Greeks discovered they had been betrayed that the king invited the non spartans to leave. It is against Spartan law to retreat from battle or surrender, so they remained.

 

 

That is a very good book, I have it too.

 

It also quotes the saying written shortly after the battle that has been quoted in a few films....

 

"Go tell the Spartans,

Stranger passing by,

That acording to thier laws,

Here we lie."

 

The rules were to return with thier shield or apon it, with all thier injuries on thier front.

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