Supragal Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So when do we find out if older cars are affected then? Anyone know stuff like that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Well it's just been announced - £300 road tax for "large engined vehicles" but I don't think there was any more detail than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jim_supra Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Well it's just been announced - £300 road tax for "large engined vehicles" but I don't think there was any more detail than that. That's all I heard aswell, I think we'll know for sure later on in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faye Brother Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/shared/bsp/hi/pdfs/21_03_07_budget_report.pdf Page 228 for the new VED rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 the thing is I could go and buy a 8lt V10 Dodge Viper (I nearly did but I then realised no one would insure me) I could dive that when it was dry so say I put out 1 ton of Co2 a year. Now average jo has a 1.6l familiy car takes their kids to school, does the shopping run goes to and from work and puts out more than 1 ton of Co2 a year. So why is it then I would pay more tax where as Avg Jo is the one "killing the planet". Every human can muder but they dont lock us all up do they. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Only goes up £5 per year for 3 years for cars registered before 2001 Yippee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Here you go, this is pg 228 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 however I feel its a bit harsh about it being 1.5l and a above well all the mums with their vectras might as well go and get a big V8 and get more for their money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Score Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I wouldn't consider a 1.6 clio a gas guzzler. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMiFFAD Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hopefully im worrying about nothing... buy "for vechicles registsred after march 2001" Do hope that doesnt include imported cars, the supra im picking upon friday was "registered" in 2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Relief!!!11!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Hopefully im worrying about nothing... buy "for vechicles registsred after march 2001" Do hope that doesnt include imported cars, the supra im picking upon friday was "registered" in 2003 You should be OK, mine was imported in 2000 I think, but is registered to 1994, the year of construction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SatSport Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Ok, so is it going to be the year it was Registered or year of Manufacture that applies?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 "large engined cars" is bollocks. Band G is anything that makes 225g/km of C02- that's nothing, a VAG 1.8T makes more than that. Strangely though Monaros and Corvettes are group F lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Strangely though Monaros and Corvettes are group F lol. Probably something to do with draconian Californian emissions laws. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Good god - just looked at the specs of the most economical car I can think of (Smart for2) and that still falls into band B. OK so the tax on band B is probably less money than I lose down the back of the sofa each week, but it makes you wonder if ANY car falls into band A... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snooze Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Well - as you can see, the only vehicles really hit hard by this are the post-March 2006 G-Banders. It's quite clear that this is aimed NOT at simply punishing ecologically unsound cars (otherwise common sense says it WOULD go on petrol tax, or apply to older cars). Instead, I believe this is actually sending out a message to car manufacturers to stop them producing new large-engined cars. At the end of the day, the extra cash the government makes from this is going to be minimal (in fact, I'd be surprised with these numbers if it's any better than cash-neutral) - it's the slowing down of future production they are looking at instead. It's also key to changing public perception of large-engined cars and 4x4s. By the government making an implication that these kind of vehicles are "socially unacceptable", it will create more of a stigma associated with their ownership and maybe disuade people from wanting that kind of label. To me, this shows that the budget is targetted squarely at the Chelsea tractor-types. Unfortunately, the next generation of car enthusiasts ARE going to get impacted by this, but I don't think it can't be helped, and those people who are considering a post-2006 sports car will be going into it with their eyes open, aware of the extra cost. By the time the newer sports cars are really becoming affordable "entusiast" cars, we'll probably have a new way of taxing cars anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 It's also key to changing public perception of large-engined cars and 4x4s. By the government making an implication that these kind of vehicles are "socially unacceptable", it will create more of a stigma associated with their ownership and maybe disuade people from wanting that kind of label. To me, this shows that the budget is targetted squarely at the Chelsea tractor-types. So why is it not only over say 2.5 litre engines? Most every day cars are more than a 1.4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lust2luv Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Good god - just looked at the specs of the most economical car I can think of (Smart for2) and that still falls into band B. OK so the tax on band B is probably less money than I lose down the back of the sofa each week, but it makes you wonder if ANY car falls into band A... I think I read on the BBC that no cars fall into band A! (yet) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ark Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 It's also key to changing public perception of large-engined cars and 4x4s. By the government making an implication that these kind of vehicles are "socially unacceptable", it will create more of a stigma associated with their ownership and maybe disuade people from wanting that kind of label. But it won't do that...it will only strengthen the status symbol effect, making them even more of a "keeping up with the Joneses" type vehicle. Inevitably it will only affect those people on the fringe of being able to afford such vehicles. Anyone who actually _can_ afford it properly will continue to drive them, perhaps even more than before "to make it worth it". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 Ok just to get this right as not sure I understand. Is it on car registered in this Country or when the car was manufactured? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I would put my money on it being based on the date it was first registered, i.e. after manufacture. Not any dates should it have moved countries. They'd never keep track of it anyway! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattanna Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 I think it is when registered, but ne w rules defo only apply to after 1st March 2001, heres this from bbc site Cars registered before 1 March 2001: taxed on engine size; over 1549cc £175 a year, below £110. Cars with petrol engines registered on or after 1 March 2001: taxed in seven tax bands depending on CO2 emissions. Bands A-F apply to all cars registered until a year ago, the new G tax band applies to heavily polluting cars registered on or after 23 March 2006. Different tax rates apply for cars with engines using diesel or alternative fuels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucas Posted March 21, 2007 Share Posted March 21, 2007 So mine that as just come into the UK and will be reg'ed in couple of days falls under the new £300 a year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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