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Loud rattle from intake cam


charlieboo

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There is a loud rattling noise coming from under the intake side cam cover (wooden stick to ear trick). I checked timing belt pulley first, removed aux belt (to see if it was PAS/AC pump) but the noise is still there.

It sounds like there is something metallic blowing around (my no 2 turbine shattered recently so was thinking it could be bits of that). I removed the intake and runners, but found nothing abnormal in there.

I can see the valves and all look normal. Turning the engine over by hand I can see some of the valves moving up and down a bit, but I’m now not sure what I should be looking for.

Any advice appreciated. Thanks.

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I forgot to mention the following...

 

1. Rattle is in time with revs.

 

2. Gets louder with more revs.

 

3. Struggles to start (hesitates), but then does start and runs normally.

 

4. During idle, the revs drop at random intervals (anywhere between 5 to 20 seconds). Almost stalls, but picks up again.

 

The cam position sensors aren't stuck, but I would imagine that if one was, then the noise would be similar.

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Not sure. When turning the crank by hand, the cam seems to make a smooth contact with them.

 

It's a very loud rattle. It's quite scary to stand anywhere near the engine when its running. Sounds like there is a ball bearing being fired around.

 

Could the shims cause such a noise?

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If it's a regular noise then chances are it won't be lose bits of metal. No way could the turbo bits get up there either - I'd go with shims. Your best bet is to whip off the rocker cover and have a good nose around - get some feeler gauges too.

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Checked both intake and exhaust clearances and all are within spec.

 

One of the cam position sensors looks like it's been hit with a hammer on one corner. Double checked that the cam wasn't smashing into it though.

 

Also, I noticed that when turning the crank (by hand) there is a point where there is a lot of resistance. Then is suddenly eases off again. Is this normal?

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Compression figures should ideally be within 5% of each other... so if highest is 160 then lowest should be 152!!

 

Your 110 and to some extent 130 sounds bad :(

 

Try squirting a teaspoon of oil into the cylinders and do 5 & 6 again exactly the same way you did them before. If pressures come up its the rings. If not its valve problems.

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