Kranz Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Hmmmm, not knowing the full facts and not being there at the time I won't pass judgement on this one. But my belief is that the officer was trying to release her arm by using strikes to a pressure point, as taught. He could have backed off when the strikes didn't work, elevated the response and got his baton out.... but how would that have looked??? "Officer batons poor defenceless woman"??? I've recently been injured by a drunk male on a train trying to restrain him on my own... and he was only small. Drunks don't feel pain and seem to summon up super human strength, women included. Once it took three of us to restrain a female who wasn't really resisting but just trying to walk off. I had to get her in a head lock as we couldn't stop her!! Police brutality onlookers shouted....... Sometimes it 'looks' entirely different to the true events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TRD3000GT Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Yea.. OK.. She was having a fit and in the process was attacking his groin.. Please save it for someone who cares. Put the girl in a cell and loose the key and may be she will find her consonants in there. Welcome to the real world you pathetic little girl. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I work on the doors in and around Bristol, IMO girls/Women are more dangerous than the blokes... They honestly think, 'He cant touch me' so theyll do anything they like... Once confronted they turn into the she devil, and try and tear your eyes out... No joke! Ide prefer to fight a man, anyday of the week, Still prefer to sleep with the ladys though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffSupra Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Don't damage the car, don't get a few punches. I would have punched the cow if she had damaged my car for no reason. Good on the police even if it is wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cable Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I totaly agree with what they/he did. What do you expect if you fight back? Their job is to keep violent people like that off the street and if they get violent to a copper why should they have to tolerate it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I've just watched the BBC video clip and I actually find it offensive.... How dare they class her as 'Alleged victim'... she is a guilty person who has been convicted of causing damage... and now she is going to sue the police for doing their job... Why don't we just stop paying tax and just sack all the police, because it is very clear that people don't want the police to do their jobs... It was quoted in Basingstoke press that the police are no longer allowed to chase kids who steal bikes INCASE they (kids) fall off and injure themselves.. Healthy and safety bullshit is affecting the way people live now, not making it any safer that is for sure... when police can't do their job because they may harm the guilty??? come on, they are guilty of a crime and if they get hurt slightly during arrest well they shouldn't have resisited should they.... People like her should be made to do proper community service rather than a piss poor £250 fine... make them clean up the trash on the side of the road or paint the railings... make them do something for the community.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
penguin Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 good on the copper for punching the shiznits out of her if i was in his shoes, i would of kicked the stupid woman till she stopped breathing - as for old skool.... if a 200lb beast of a lady was kicking the shit out of you, would you just stand around and take it or would you hit back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Actually... thinking about it, someone should suggest to the copper that he sues her for GBH/ABH for grabbing his testicles.... The video footage and his evidence does agree with the fact that he was trying to defend himself, and he claims to have hit her in the arm to 'deaden' it... Well if she had her hands firmly around my dangleys I'd be hitting her arm a few times till she let go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chiefgroover Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 You sexist pig. If she deserved punching her XX chromosomes are irrelevant IMO Here Here. Never punch a Lady, but an ignorant tart, now thats a different thing lol....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I totally agree, the police should have restrained the drunkard. There's far too many idiot girls and guys like that on the streets. But why the hell did it take such a lot of effort. I've seen the pictures of her, she doesn't look particularly heavy. I mean 4 burly policemen! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
martin_a Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 She is also claiming it was a racial thing. Looking at ther she seems a right chavvy scrag end and the officer was doing his job by punching her in the arm to make her let go. The way it is going in the press you'd think he put her teeth in a bag. Utter scummy tart that got what she deserved and is now going (probably) to make some money off it that she can just fritter away while a officer doing his job will no doubt get a P45 Sorry love but acting like a James Blunt, sober/drunk/male/female/black/yellow/pink etc is still acting like a James Blunt and you deserve a slap. m. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 She is also claiming it was a racial thing. Does this really surprise anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I totally agree, the police should have restrained the drunkard. There's far too many idiot girls and guys like that on the streets. But why the hell did it take such a lot of effort. I've seen the pictures of her, she doesn't look particularly heavy. I mean 4 burly policemen! Ever had to deal with male or female who is drunk/drugged up... People in this state a) don't feel the pain b) have a lot more reserve strength than normal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 It was on Real radio news that her mother said that she was epileptic and that was the reason she was thrown out of the club!!!! :rollseyes: What club would throw someone out who appeared to be having a fit? and watching that vid he managed to stumble pretty well down the stairs for someone having a fit or could have been after that granted. Now I am no expert but I have a best mate that suffers from epilepsy and a person i used to work with years ago and my mates brother and when they have a fit they go as stiff as a board it is not a pleasent site, but she is all over the place no muscle spasm what so ever. Futher more the poeple that I know who have suffered them are always out of it for a couple of hours after the fit none have been as active as this lady. Good on the police I am one that supports force to be used but if she was having a fit then that is another matter but seriously how in that situation and short space of time is an officer meant to establish if the lady is having a fit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 It wasn't just any old fit, it was a racist one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 It wasn't just any old fit, it was a racist one Those are the worst ones I believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JODY T Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Ever had to deal with male or female who is drunk/drugged up... People in this state a) don't feel the pain b) have a lot more reserve strength than normal... So true! It may look easy to restrain someone, but in reality its not... Drunk or Drugged up people are unpredictable, and will do whatever it takes to get away... They will instantly try and cause damage, whereas, most people will try to restrain someone before it gets nasty.. Sometimes for your own safety you have to retailate to stop the situation escalating.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colsoop Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 "Rant mode initiated"The media annoys me, what the hell has her being a mother got to do with anything. From the policemans statement he said she was grabbing his nuts and trying to knee him there. He did a standard self defence move and struck her arm at a vulnerable point to try and release her grip simple. Because the women was pissed up her pain threshold was a lot higher and so more strikes were needed to release her grip. She resisted arrest, she assaulted policeman and she has caused criminal damage now why is she portrayed as a victim of a "racial beat down by police". Sadly she will no doubt get a huge payout for her own stupidity. while some of our boys overseas who will probably get maimed or killed are left with sweet fa because fighting a war is un PC. I wait to be flamed "Rant mode over" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 I wait to be flamed I can't see it happening, what you've said is pretty much spot on - I'm still not comfortable with the man vs woman thing but my eyes are slightly more open than they were before I posted this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Fair play to the Officer. A few good kicks wouldn't of gone amiss either me thinks. Plus, she looks like a dirty skett head chav who frequently shoots up and shags jisom moneys for a living. - No stereotyping of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevie_b Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I have full respect for the police in this case. Most of what I think has been said above. I think "why couldn't they restrain her, she's only a woman and outnumbered" is waaaay off the mark. Drunks and criminals simply don't play by the same rules as the police. If the police were trying to rip her thruppny bits off and gouge her eyes out, then that would be a more even fight. The police have such a tough job these days. Full respect to the vast majority of them for what they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 The media annoys me, what the hell has her being a mother got to do with anything. Can't believe the race card is being played YET again, seems to act like a blank cheque in cases like this and normally ends up with a payout just to make it go away:( Bottom line is that we, the taxpayer, will end up footing the bill again and some lowlife will benefit despite breaking the law. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Anybody that cant restrain someone like her in the video hasnt been trained right, and any of you that say she needs a good hiding are completely wrong...what if she was having a fit?? Comments coming from a part time door steward in Glasgow...and a Muay Thai practicioner, been in the game over a year and have never had to strike ANYONE like that. I would never use Muay Thai whilst at work, it isnt neccessary, people skills and pressure points are more benefiticial when restraining someone As for the Kn.b talkin about race...???he has clearly got his 15mins of fame, the officer involved would have done that whether it be a young kid or an old man, he should be taken off the force and given further training, if he aint hapy with that, have him dismissed, the same as any employee! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolarbag Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Read some more comments there...yes he did appear to be striking pressure points in her arms...but why let it get to that stage in the first place??? And yes the police do have a tough job, they will have encountered numerous occasions like the one shown in the cctv, it gets easier to restrain someone with experience...why did he let her fly down the stairs??? Fact is he fooked up, I hope he pays for it and is made an example of, the police get away with far too much these days, at the end of the day it is a job, just like anyone else, if I got caught using that force I'd be sacked no doubts about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fifty Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 On the Continet - of which we are @convenient monetary members@ they use BATTONS and smash the crap out of thieves and criminals - oh I wish, not here in "pussy" Britain. Solicitor got to her obviously - kerr ching Rich Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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