Pot Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Maybe we should be in that era though?... We already are as motorists, we get done there and then, how about everyone else?... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 The criminal justice system isn't working now, perhaps a move towards a more heavily policed state (I'm talking criminal offences here, not motoring!) would be a good thing. Those of us that obey the laws of this great country have nothing to fear. well thats just the thing, there are too many "unsuitable" cops out there, i know first hand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Maybe we should be in that era though?... We already are as motorists, we get done there and then, how about everyone else?... there minor offences and police can issue them too, on the spot fines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 well thats just the thing, there are too many "unsuitable" cops out there, i know first hand You're not the only one, it's not just the cops, but the courts too... I'm still waiting to hear what your response about me is!... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 The criminal justice system isn't working now, perhaps a move towards a more heavily policed state (I'm talking criminal offences here, not motoring!) would be a good thing. Those of us that obey the laws of this great country have nothing to fear. the way to go is not to be soft on sentences, people dont fear the concequences of their actions. you shouldnt have to fear getting beaten by a police officer tho Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt H Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 You're not the only one, it's not just the cops, but the courts too... I'm still waiting to hear what your response about me is!... forget it i was only messing with you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 forget it i was only messing with you! I hope so, no worries, I agree about your view on not being soft on sentences... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 the way to go is not to be soft on sentences, people dont fear the concequences of their actions. you shouldnt have to fear getting beaten by a police officer tho Regarding the consequences, I agree, no one fears them because there are very few now for criminal offences (if you are that way inclined). People shouldn't fear the police or as you say the consequences of coming into contact with them, I certainly don't, but then why would I? If you're a committing an offence then perhaps the police should have more power to apprehend and subdue suspects. If you're not part of the solution you're part of the problem, you my friend, are part of the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 People shouldn't fear being being beaten by a police officer... if they're normal law abiding citizens. Criminals on the other hand should accept that if they're going to resist arrest and attack the police, that they're gonna have force used back. I've had my run ins with the law before but I've never attacked them or shown aggression as I know that I'd be in for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Personally, I've been done for many many driving offences, I'm not saying to act hard, or to make myself sound big, I made some mistakes when I was younger, and I'm still paying for them now... But when I see chavvy c|_| |\| T$, (Sorry, c*nts) getting away with a 14 day ban and a £20 fine, when I had a 9 month ban (Only because I paid £130 to go on the fcuking course I was apparently lucky to go on) pardon me for having a place I rent myself, and a job I go to, and a car I own that's not fcuking stolen... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Sorry for my rant, but the whole situation does wind me up, I wouldn't mind getting punished more IF it was the same across the board... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 It must have been a pretty pathetic group of officers if their combined might couldn't restrain a single woman without it all getting a bit giddy. oh yeah now i see, obviously she had hold of their bollocks, all of them, with all 4 of her arms I can tell by your comments that you have never had to restrain someone, and I'm not talking about a pissed up mate whilst down the pub. Look up excitable delirium. We had a kid who was 16 yrs old, but looked more like 14. Whilst trying to get him out of the cells and onto the prison van,he went into this state & it Took 3 of us to pin the little fucker down Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 Interesting how the opinions above seem to change with age. IMHO The Police have a difficult job to do with red tape restricting their work all the time. Handling violent criminals is very difficult when you consider they may have concealed weapons, Aids/Hep to try and scratch, bite, spit etc. If your an obvious criminal who has done something right in front of your eyes (ie no question they did it) they shouldn't have any rights. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 hes a bloke, shes a woman, does he need to punch her at all? I think those days are long gone Matt. Women can be fooking vicious, they scratch, bite and kick when you try to restrain them. I would like to see the vid though. You have a go then eh whilst some young pissed up slag is grabbing your bollocks then. Big difference in restraining someone and fighting them. Violent pissed up women are the worse offenders that you can deal with because: A) They're women. B) You're mindful of the fact they're women. C) Doesn't look good to an observer when you're a bloke trying to restrain a violent woman. If a violent woman or man was grabbing my bollocks then I would punch her or him on the arm that was doing so until she or he let go. In fact the bloke would probably receive a more severe response than would be necessary. Fully agree Doug, unless you have done the job it is very difficult to comment. The job is now so difficult with people carrying weapons etc. The thing that disturbs me is that "assault police" is not classed as a serious offence these days!! well thats just the thing, there are too many "unsuitable" cops out there, i know first hand I don't know what your experiences are Matt but I am inclined to agree. I quit 6 years ago as I felt that some of the guys I was working with had lost the plot when it came to public relations. I always thought I was very fair and sometimes a bit soft with people, but if you took the piss I would come down on them like a ton of bricks. H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 I can tell by your comments that you have never had to restrain someone You are wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 You are wrong. Well in that case you should know what it is like to restrain someone who goes into a state of excitable delirium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 People shouldn't fear being being beaten by a police officer... if they're normal law abiding citizens. Criminals on the other hand should accept that if they're going to resist arrest and attack the police, that they're gonna have force used back. I've had my run ins with the law before but I've never attacked them or shown aggression as I know that I'd be in for it. Yep, that's exactly how it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I see the UK has a version of Al Sharpton... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton (for those who are not familiar with that idiot) But local race relations manager Ruggie Johnson, who first obtained the CCTV tape, said: "It is absolutely shocking indeed to think that images like these could be coming out of South Yorkshire. "This is not the deep south, this is South Yorkshire." He has the gall to compare this to slavery.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kittyclaws Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I see the UK has a version of Al Sharpton... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton (for those who are not familiar with that idiot) He has the gall to compare this to slavery.... It's people like him who make the whole thing alot worse Edit,, Not you Gamer, but the bloke you are talking about Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 I see the article has been updated a fair bit since last night, the whole race thing wasn't mentioned when I originally posted the link. They have also added this: ...she says was due to an epileptic fit. Police say she was trying to resist arrest And: At this point, I struck her as hard as I was physically able with my right fist in an attempt to subdue her. There was no apparent effect so I did this twice more. and then: "I now struck her as hard as I was physically able in an attempt to deaden her arm...in the end I had to use brute force" It almost sounds romantic when you say "strike with fist" doesn't it. Anyway the summary I get from this is that the police are racist wife beaters who clearly recruit people who lack the physical strength or ability to do the job that has been asked of them... maybe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 I see the UK has a version of Al Sharpton... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al_Sharpton (for those who are not familiar with that idiot) He has the gall to compare this to slavery.... Yeah, what's with the "In this the year we call the abolition of slavery year" crap he's spouting? Another racial crusader looking to stir up more shit. THEY are the buggers we should be looking to deport! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 What's the difference between 'as hard as I was physically able' and 'brute force'? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted March 8, 2007 Author Share Posted March 8, 2007 What's the difference between 'as hard as I was physically able' and 'brute force'? And why not use "brute force" in the first place? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlotte Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 And why not use "brute force" in the first place? Weedy bobbys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted March 8, 2007 Share Posted March 8, 2007 What's the difference between 'as hard as I was physically able' and 'brute force'? As hard as I was physically able = I am a poofter Brute force = Any movement the little five foot girl makes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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