scott23 Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 hi peeps , ive been reading and watching clips from over the pond that are using stroker kits and was wondering how much the cost were to fit these kits???? if there is any1 out there who has had this fitted wat was the cost/time etc and did it make a huge difference???? And who can supply the cheapest been quoted so far 5000+vat for the hks , can any1 recommand sommit better or just as good b good to hear peoples views cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted March 1, 2007 Share Posted March 1, 2007 Scott I'll pm you prices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott23 Posted March 2, 2007 Author Share Posted March 2, 2007 thank u nic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 why PM?? you might get some interest from the rest of us!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Has any one any idea of the pro's/con's and cost effectiveness of stroker kits? Someone must have looked in to this when rebuiling their engine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 well I suppose its good for heading on the positive side of 700 800 bhp, but anything less, I wouldnt really see to much of a point, unless of course you dont care about budget. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 You mean there are no advantages under 700? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Walker Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Titan make the best stroker kit. I've experienced the quality first hand of HKS, Titan & Crower kits and I know which one I'd use. The JUN is also very good but is extremely expensive. I'd happily sell you the HKS one, but if you snap a rod for example, you cannot buy individual components. Titan kits are a shade under £6k all in. Regards, Gaz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 There are NO downsides to fitting a stroker....other than the cost. If you can afford it and want it the extra 10% Cubic Capacity should be extremely nice to drive. I'd love to see what a small single and a 3.4 Stroker can do I don't subscribe to the you must be wanting to make xxxxbhp to use one...extra CC's are always good. If the cost (about 4.5k + fitting for the crower kit isn't it?) is ok by you then I'd do it. The kits have been proven to over 9,000rpm...but to run that you need to have a built head too. EDIT - agreed on Titan making the best one, though I think it uses the Crower crank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 And the pros/cons of the kits in general Gaz, no where near convinced it would be a good idea for a road car, never mind which kit to go with Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Thanks Alex, and the cost is not extortionate if you are going to rebuild the engine anyway Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 If you are serious about one I could get one built in the UK, for probably a LOT less than the figures for an imported kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 FYI guys Leon Green has trashed 2 x HKS Stroker engines in his. Kean runs a Titan kit in his 7 second car with no problems. Read into that what you will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Thanks Chris, comments on the differences if I was going to have the engine built anyway? Can't see that there were would be a big difference financially Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 I don't think I am as "hard" on my car as Leon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Terry S Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 comments on the differences if I was going to have the engine built anyway? Can't see that there were would be a big difference financially What about the new steel crank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 There are NO downsides to fitting a stroker....other than the cost. If you can afford it and want it the extra 10% Cubic Capacity should be extremely nice to drive. I'd love to see what a small single and a 3.4 Stroker can do I don't subscribe to the you must be wanting to make xxxxbhp to use one...extra CC's are always good. If the cost (about 4.5k + fitting for the crower kit isn't it?) is ok by you then I'd do it. The kits have been proven to over 9,000rpm...but to run that you need to have a built head too. EDIT - agreed on Titan making the best one, though I think it uses the Crower crank. I didnt mean that there would be no gains. I just meant that the gains you get would probably be easier and cheaper to get by going another route, other than the stroker kit. But then, bigger is not always better... IE. For the imprezas, the 2.5l seems to be the most common option these days, but all of the fastest ones run a 2.33l stroker kit. This might be set to change in the future though... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jezz Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 If you can afford it and want it the extra 10% Cubic Capacity should be extremely nice to drive. Agree. There aint no replacement for displacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 £6K for the kit unfitted... I think that there is a rather big difference in price, between that and a built 3.0l engine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Been quoted a lot less than that though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeordieSteve Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Been looking into this myself. I intend to build my block and the stroker route doesn't seem much more expensive at all that using just forged parts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 But then, bigger is not always better... IE. For the imprezas, the 2.5l seems to be the most common option these days, but all of the fastest ones run a 2.33l stroker kit. This might be set to change in the future though... There will be a reason why the 2.5 isn't working well enough - weight/airflow/etc... The 3.4L strokers all use lighter than stock parts on the Supra....but the head will need better breathing via cams at the very least (256in/264ex min) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 There will be a reason why the 2.5 isn't working well enough - weight/airflow/etc... The 3.4L strokers all use lighter than stock parts on the Supra....but the head will need better breathing via cams at the very least (256in/264ex min) Maybe the reason is that the 2.5l hasnt been around that long for those cars. 2l has been around for ages. Who knows what the future holds... Any idea how much lighter? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 Seems to be worth investigating further anyway but meanwhile I have to go and change a wheelbearing on the vectra (again) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted March 2, 2007 Share Posted March 2, 2007 If you are serious about one I could get one built in the UK, for probably a LOT less than the figures for an imported kit. Hmmm, interesting. I had been looking at the Crower kit, but may have to rethink. My single isn't a big one, but I'm dead chuffed with it - spools really well and performs well. I wouldn't want anything bigger. With a built engine, I could run higher boost but depends on the efficiencies of my turbo once at higher revs and boost. Definitely interested in a 3.4, so probable project for next winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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