Double solid white lines on road

[Willson]

Are you allowed to overtake a bike if you would need to cross double white lines? I'm thinking not, but it seems rediculous.

[terribleturner]

HHmmm intresting. I guess the law says no, but if it's clear and you can manouvre safely go for it. I guess we're talking push bike yes?

[AlanM]

The answer is no, its a licence loser

[Havard]

Good question that!! I think day to day if there was nothing coming you would just nip over to overtake a push rod. The big question is "What would you do if there was a rozzer behind you??"

 

H.

[Ian W]

i know you're not supposed to....but a licence loser???

 

christ i'd better read up on my highway code!

[Willson]

Yeah push bike. I overtook one going up a hill yesterday. Unsurprisingly it was going very slowly. Was I really meant to do 5 mph for a mile or so ? It was perfectly safe to overtake in my opinion, the road was completely quiet.

[Scoboblio]

The simple answer is yes, you can to overtake a bike.

 

Rule 108;

 

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/10.htm

[terribleturner]

I think the Police would MAYBE give you a telling off but i can't see them enforcing it.

Where's Dug

[Havard]

The simple answer is yes, you can to overtake a bike.

 

Rule 108;

 

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/10.htm

 

Ok then smarty pants! What if the bike is doing over 10 mph.

 

Quite possible too. My uncle Stan got a speeding ticket for 38 in a 30 on a push iron about 30 years ago. Uphill too!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok then it was down Parbold Hill near Wigan it's about half a mile of a 1 in 5 gradient hill.

 

H.

[AlanM]

Got 46.6 mph on my bike, down a very steep hill granted, but still a buzz

[Scoboblio]

Should've said it wasn't him driving since bikes don't have registered owners.

[Havard]

Got 46.6 mph on my bike, down a very steep hill granted, but still a buzz

 

Yes but have you got a certificate form the Police to show for it??

[Havard]

Should've said it wasn't him driving since bikes don't have registered owners.

 

I think the fact that the copper nabbed him there and then may have put a spanner in the works. I will give him your advice for future reference though!

 

Anyone know a good medium?

 

H.

[Scoboblio]

I think the fact that the copper nabbed him there and then may have put a spanner in the works.

 

Oh.... yeah It's been a long night + day!

 

Haha I can imagine it now, standing by a push-bike with two coppers looking at you.... "errrmmmmm it wasn't....me? I was the passenger."

[Willson]

The simple answer is yes, you can to overtake a bike.

 

http://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/10.htm

 

Cheers, I did actually read that before I posted but I thought that it was probably different to TWO solid white lines. Reading it now though, I guess the only line we are interested in, is the one on 'our' side of the road.

[Chewie]

Got 46.6 mph on my bike, down a very steep hill granted, but still a buzz

 

Is that all!! I regularly top 50+ mph on my carbon Giant TCR. 63 was the max I've ever done. [sHOCK][/sHOCK] I was fully stretched out using my tri-bars. It is the buzz!!! The hill runs down into Lilleybrook part of Cheltenham. Speed limit is 50!! LOL!! [GRIN][/GRIN]

[Matt H]

I think the Police would MAYBE give you a telling off but i can't see them enforcing it.

Where's Dug

 

3 points on my licence says they enforce it!

[Pot]

Is that all!! I regularly top 50+ mph on my carbon Giant TCR. 63 was the max I've ever done. [sHOCK][/sHOCK] I was fully stretched out using my tri-bars. It is the buzz!!! The hill runs down into Lilleybrook part of Cheltenham. Speed limit is 50!! LOL!! [GRIN][/GRIN]

 

Good man! I know that hill well, routinely keeping up with the cars on my Cannondale M1000 I had back then ... And that was a mountain bike... I think the Cannondale XYZ bar ends, and a youthfull lack of fear helped a lot...

[ivan]

108: Double white lines where the line nearest you is solid.

This means you MUST NOT cross or straddle it unless it is safe and you need to enter adjoining premises or a side road. You may cross the line if necessary to pass a stationary vehicle, or overtake a pedal cycle, horse or road maintenance vehicle, if they are travelling at 10mph or less.

[Class One]

3 points on my licence says they enforce it!

 

You're quite right they would enforce it. To the tune of £60 and 3 points. The only exceptions being as previously mentioned or even down to an individuals discretion. (we still have that you know and I use mine alot ).

[Rob]

Good man! I know that hill well, routinely keeping up with the cars on my Cannondale M1000 I had back then ... And that was a mountain bike... I think the Cannondale XYZ bar ends, and a youthfull lack of fear helped a lot...

 

Try matching them under braking though.

I once got a max recorded speed of 56mph on a hill near Eynsford, Kent, for those Dartford folk that know it. Pah, no helmet, just lycra shorts and some crochet mittens.

 

The bit about ghost islands says

109: Areas of white diagonal stripes or chevrons painted on the road. These are to separate traffic lanes or to protect traffic turning right.

 

If the area is bordered by a broken white line, you should not enter the area unless it is necessary and you can see that it is safe to do so.

 

What exactly is "necessary" then? Is just wanting to overtake a slightly slower car "necessary"?

[Class One]

Necessary will be that for the circumstances. Sometime you need to enter it. for example to move round a hazard in the carriageway or such like. For an overtake? Necessary could be applied using common sense. If you entered the cross hatching for the sake of an overtake that could have waited say 100 yds further down the road where there were no cross hatchings then the necessity rule couldn't be applied. But it can also be countered with the "safe to do so" so its a common sense judgement.

[Pot]

Try matching them under braking though.

 

Too right, even with the sweeping bends on that road I was having issues going around them, so I had no chance of stopping, but as I put, youthful ignorance You wouldn't catch me doing that nowadays, maybe if I was still riding, but the cannondale got pinched, and then I discovered beer and cars

[Rob]

Necessary will be that for the circumstances. Sometime you need to enter it. for example to move round a hazard in the carriageway or such like. For an overtake? Necessary could be applied using common sense. If you entered the cross hatching for the sake of an overtake that could have waited say 100 yds further down the road where there were no cross hatchings then the necessity rule couldn't be applied. But it can also be countered with the "safe to do so" so its a common sense judgement.

 

Ah, difficult one to judge then. The road I commute on has a ghost island (for a junction on my LH) at the end of a long straight, it's the last safe place to overtake for a while on that road as the straight finishes with an uphill RH bend. I regularly use it to overtake trucks and buses, but it could be argued that there are other safer straight sections in the next 3 miles so is it really necessary? especially its there as a refuge for oncoming cars to turn right of the main road. Despite all that visibility is excellant there and any fool can overtake safely there.

(await "I've wrecked my supra post" now)

 

 

 

, so I had no chance of stopping, but as I put, youthful ignorance You wouldn't catch me doing that nowadays,

 

When I was a young, ardent cyclist, because I built and maintained my bikes, regularly cleaning, degreasing the rims and scuffing the pads, I was CONVINCED I could outbrake any car or truck, and would sometimes tailgate at 1-2 inches from the bumpers.

Utter madness, as if my 2sq.cm of rubber could outperform 14 massive tyres. Luckily for me, I was never shown my ignorance