Chris and Alana Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 hi guys, I have a TT auto and I think my intercooler is due a change but I dont know whether to get a front mount, (I like the look and price of the Miami GT one £400) Its a 2 row I believe or a new SMIC, again Miami GT's £250 from what iv read they seem good. anyway will a front mount be too big for BPU, Im only running 1bar but im getting an EBC to increase to 1.2 (most driving will be at 1bar) or will It be better than a replacement SMIC. Iv done a search but couldnt find much. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 BPU level a SMIC like Raperformance's will be fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyW Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 BPU level a SMIC like Raperformance's will be fine Is Miami GT's no good then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris and Alana Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 Miami GT's SMIC is a good price and people find they work well on here (from the search button anyway) But there FMIC is also a good price and FMIC look really nice but its pointless if Its going to do more harm than good. So you think a new SMIC would be best for stock tubbies at 1-1.2bar? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 MiamiGT is Raperformance, read their section RE, rebrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyW Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 MiamiGT is Raperformance, read their section RE, rebrand. Well smack my ass and call me Shirley! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamieP Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Edit.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Edit.... The Bandit never had mad editing skillz either. FWIW, SMIC all the way. You can't beat a properly ducted bit of kit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris and Alana Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 I have a top secret type 2 front bumper so will a SMIC still be as efficient? Like I said before I love the look of a front mount but if its not going to be as good Il go for a new side mount. So why is a SMIC better than a FMIC for BPU? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 Didn't spot that you have a non-standard bumper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 If you dont have the stock front, go for a FMIC then, as the ducting which gives the SMIC its advantages are gone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steviekid Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 So why is a SMIC better than a FMIC for BPU? It's not that it's better, it's just that a FMIC is unnecessary at that level. If you plan on taking the car further then stick a FMIC on. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris and Alana Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 So with my after market front bumper gone the SMIC doesnt have an advantage over the FMIC, so would the FMIC now be the better performing one? Does anyone know how much power the Miami GT FMIC can support? Thanks for the help guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris and Alana Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 try asking in the miamiGT section, perhaps get a anwser there about one of there products, you think? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 The truth is, nobody knows. None of these FMIC's and SMIC's have been tested to establish which are best. It would be nice to know! I fitted a CW SMIC in preference to a FMIC as you wouldn't have to declare it for your insurance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris and Alana Posted February 25, 2007 Author Share Posted February 25, 2007 I guess they havent been tested and the SMIC is cheaper, does the job and a good point by merkx I dont have to declare to the insurence. But I have an aftermarket front bumper so as I found out the SMIC looses its advantage over a FMIC as the original air ducting is lost. But say it wasnt the miami GT intercoolers, I know people highly recommend CW SMIC and also think the G-ready 2row FMIC is v.good now out of those which have been tried and tested by members and I gues lots of others which would be best suited to a BPU car with an aftermarket bumper? Thanks for all the replies and help guys I just want to get it right first time when I buy one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 If the FMIC is ducted so that air passes through it, and not around it then it should be ok (though you are restricting air flow to your radiator). If you have a stock bumper, then SMIC for BPU would be enough, but if your using an aftermarket bumper then you could either keep the SMIC and modify the ducting to it or go for a FMIC. Good read here: http://www.max-boost.co.uk/max-boost/intake/intercooler_2JZGTE.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clarkey Posted February 25, 2007 Share Posted February 25, 2007 What about a WOT run with a SMIC ? Heatsoak ? ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Chris - I'd go for an FMIC if you have a TS fitted. Nice wide mouth and with a bit of careful ducting, you should be able to pass plenty of air through both the FMIC and Rad. Gamer has run his FMIC with no rad cooling problems at all, pushing a decent single setup. Take a look at the Greddy 2-row if I was you. Perfect for BPU (not overkill) and even a small single. I have thise fitted to mine and it seems bloody good. No heat issues so far either, but it is winter! Good luck. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 The SMIC is always going to be better imo, ive got a front mount but only as I plan to go single at some point in the future, but even then im still considering using an uprated SMIC. The ducting and heat transfer of the original SMIC Toyota installed is far superior in every way to a FMIC which makes it better in my opinion. I would stick with a new toyota one ideally or a Chris Wilson one if you can get hold off one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 True Mikey, I agree but unless you have a stock bumper still, the ducting is of little use for a SMIC surely. I'd happily go for a CW SMIC too for the cash, if I wasn't going to go aftermarket front though. I just think an FMIC, with a good choice of front bumper with a wider mouth and some improvised ducting would be just as good, if not better than a SMIC. Just my two cents of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted February 26, 2007 Share Posted February 26, 2007 Fmic all day once the standard bumper is taken off, especially if the new bumper has a nice wide mouth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris and Alana Posted February 26, 2007 Author Share Posted February 26, 2007 Thans for the info. as mentioned there is a big mouth on the front of the top secret bumper which will benefit a FMIC I guess. So if I create some sort of ducting to prevent the air from going around a FMIC will enough air pass through to cool the radiator aswell? Also sheefa, how much did you pay for your G-readdy 2-row if you dont mind me asking and does it come with polished pipes etc. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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