terribleturner Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Is there a way of seeing who is using my bandwidth?? It may be paranoia and the fact the system is slow, but my conection on the odd occassion halves like there's another laptop using my connection. I've got a security code on it but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Connect to your router and see who is connected Should be 192.168.0.1 if it's a Netgear router Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 If you have it set up the default way (with DHCP on) then you can look at the list of DHCP clients - obviously 1 of them would be yours, but any more than that and its someone else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Out of interest can you find out who these people are I have just looked on mine and found 12 people on it. It also shows there mac address Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supragold Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 12? Can you tell what they have looked at too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 12? Can you tell what they have looked at too? God knows It has an option to block computer though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Do you guys not use WEP or WPA security? If you can, enable WPA/TKIP - far more secure than WEP. Then turn off SSID Broadcasting, and turn on MAC address filtering, and limit it to just your MAC address(es) that you use. Makes the network far more secure then. Living in a block of flats I can see about 10 wifi networks - 4 of which are unprotected. By connecting to them, it would be possible to access the router setup page(s), and if they've left the default pwd's on (which most of them probably have) then you can change the password, and filter THEM off their own broadband! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Other steps to secure network is to change the default IP address of the router to a random IP, switch off DHCP and give your machines static IP's, Block any ICMP or ping packets through the route firewall, make sure the router firewall is on and is set to HIGH... only port-forward for applications you need and use... etc If you want to go the full-hog - and perhaps you are on limited download limit - turn the router off (or at least the wifi section) when you are not using it, or at work etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Good advice there Pablo There's 4 wireless networks around my house and mine is the only secure one. I managed to access 2 of the routers as they had defaults passwords. Shouldn't complain, it means I've always got a backup if NTL goes down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Good advice there Pablo There's 4 wireless networks around my house and mine is the only secure one. I managed to access 2 of the routers as they had defaults passwords. Shouldn't complain, it means I've always got a backup if NTL goes down I wasn't going to say it on the forums - but what the hey! I've been on 2 of the networks when mine has gone down - both had default pwd's on the router! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Nice one pablo job done and erm my connection has just got alot quicker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Nice one pablo job done and erm my connection has just got alot quicker Excellent mate - glad you sorted it My connection would be a lot faster if the damn wiring in my flats wasn't 20+ years old :- Paying for an 2MB connection and only getting just over 1MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 People are obviously more paranoid where I live! I can see two others - both secure, one still broadcasting it's SSID, one not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terawua Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 sound advice there about limiting the MAC addresses to the ones you use, then you know that you wont get someone else using it. My cousin reckons that some guy in california actually got arrrested for theft for using someones wireless without their permission. I have wifi on my PDA phone.. if you drive along with it it will tell you all the wireless networks as you go along and I am amazed by the number that are unsecured, are these people mad - I mean you could use someone elses IP for posting defamatory or worse stuff on the internet, and I guess the IP owner would be liable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Nice one pablo job done and erm my connection has just got alot quicker I'm not bl**dy surprised if you had 11 people leaching from it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I am amazed by the number that are unsecured, are these people mad More likely ignorant. I bet 90% of them bought the wireless router from PCWorld, followed the installation wizard and have no idea they should do anything else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terawua Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 actually yeah thats more like it.. I had to go and secure my mum's not that anyone near her house would use it. I did check the logs and the MAC addresses all checked out with our equipment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I have wifi on my PDA phone.. if you drive along with it it will tell you all the wireless networks as you drive along and I am amazed by the number that are unsecured, are these people mad - I mean you could use someone elses IP for posting defamatory or worse stuff on the internet, and I guess the IP owner would be liable. Even MAC address filtering doesn't fully stop them, if they know what they are doing. Tools like netstumbler are used widely, and it can find networks whether the SSID broadcast is on or off. Don't know if anyone's heard of it, but the term "war-driving" is where people drive around scanning for wireless networks in their area, and then marking (on a map) where all the unsecure networks are. Then, obviously, as a group effort, you can plot a map of the entire country for everyone to see, so that if they are in the area they can pull over and check their emails etc... The most worrying thing, is that if the network is unprotected, 99% of people's data will be at risk of being copied/deleted/edited. There are default admin shares (C$ etc) on PC's, allowing anyone on the network to browse the contents of the harddrive(s). Add to that the fact that Xbox's, and even tv set-top boxes now plug into the internet, and you could easily access any one of them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 More likely ignorant. I bet 90% of them bought the wireless router from PCWorld, followed the installation wizard and have no idea they should do anything else. Or lazy in my case When I secured my network I couldn't log in its pain in the arse Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terawua Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 guess what... my PC is hard wired (the benefits of currently tearing my flat apart and pimping it wiht all sorts of AV goodies)! unfortunately the missus and my laptops arent:eyebrows: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 And for reference, It's possible to crack WEP in about 10-20mins, if not quicker. WPA is far more secure - if you've got it - use it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terawua Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 And for reference, It's possible to crack WEP in about 10-20mins, if not quicker. WPA is far more secure - if you've got it - use it! oh yeah the codes repeat dont they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pabs Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Just a few articles out there in google for some light reading http://www.smallnetbuilder.com/content/view/24244/98/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pot Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 Did you hear them all going off to the pub seeing as they had no internet?... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted February 24, 2007 Share Posted February 24, 2007 I've got autoconnect set up on my CarPC. Surprised the hell out of me the amount of connections I get just driving around town. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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