Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Ok im not going to name names or detail prices except the total. But taken your advice and contacted some suppliers on here and it seems the PHR kit is the way to go so far, still waiting on other quotes but I keep seeing this one. PHR Stage 1 Kit Power Enterprise 800cc Injectors Fuel Pulsation dampener removal pipe Aeromotive fuel pressure regulator with fitting kit Walbro fuel pump Front mount intercooler HKS BOV (already got) weld on flange HKS Silent Hi-Power Exhaust AEM ECU + Map Sensor + Air Temp Sensor RPS Max Street Clutch NGK Iridium plugs Oil Cooler Kit Greddt Profec B Spec 2 Boost Controller. All that fitted for around 9k. How does it sound ? would you change anything ? think it will make me smile ? Its a large outlay (the cost of the car again) so need to get it right, first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 You will also need an HKS DLi (or similar) for the AEM. Think about your long term goals, will the stage 1 be enough ? Stage 3 is only $500 more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 You will also need an HKS DLi (or similar) for the AEM. Think about your long term goals, will the stage 1 be enough ? Stage 3 is only $500 more Whats a DLi ? The stage 3 would probably make me dead though lol, but aparently the manifold is the same for all kits, so I can just get another turbo and stick it on for stage 2 or 3.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 http://www.hksusa.com/products/more.asp?id=839 Nah, buy the stage 3 and keep the boost down til you're used to it, then when you want more power you don't have to buy a new turbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 http://www.hksusa.com/products/more.asp?id=839 Nah, buy the stage 3 and keep the boost down til you're used to it, then when you want more power you don't have to buy a new turbo Cheers buddy, will consider the stage 3... I was going to go BPU but now im set on this, so its a huge hike in power. Doubt I'll ever need more ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 What kind of power you hoping for with all that? Also, if you don't mind doing can you split the cost into just parts and labour? You don't have to disclose who's labour quote that is. Just wondering how much could be saved if this was a DIY job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 What kind of power you hoping for with all that? Also, if you don't mind doing can you split the cost into just parts and labour? You don't have to disclose who's labour quote that is. Just wondering how much could be saved if this was a DIY job. Labour is only about 1500 quid. I think it will give around 600 horsy's or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Conrad Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Cool - it will be a beast no doubt. The labour wasn't all that much in respect to the overall outlay, not bad at all. Have you considered selling up and buying yourself a single already done? Surely you'd save at least £3k. Saying that though I know how easily you can get attached to a Supe. Oh, get some pics up in you Garage so we can see your car! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Cool - it will be a beast no doubt. The labour wasn't all that much in respect to the overall outlay, not bad at all. Have you considered selling up and buying yourself a single already done? Surely you'd save at least £3k. Saying that though I know how easily you can get attached to a Supe. Oh, get some pics up in you Garage so we can see your car! Its tempting, but you never know if its been done right, or if its been thrashed etc etc. Im the 1st uk owner of this virgin TT6 in Black, so I think I'll keep her Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I think it will give around 600 horsy's or so Injectors could be classed as a bit overkill tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Does it make much diff to price ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Depends who/where you're buying them really. But i guess with the AEM it'll control them. So you could leave them incase you decide to go bigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Injectors could be classed as a bit overkill tbh. Most of the guys in the states run 800cc plus on a T67, over kill it is, but low fuel duty at 1.4Bar sounds good to me...future proof! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 http://www.hksusa.com/products/more.asp?id=839 Nah, buy the stage 3 and keep the boost down til you're used to it, then when you want more power you don't have to buy a new turbo Disagree with this. Going for a much larger turbo like the stage 3 will mean considerably later spool and more lag. A big turbo running low boost will be a MUCH slower street car than a small turbo running average boost. If you want 1st hand experience of the difference, speak to Jamiep as he recently went from a Greddy T88 (around the same as the Phr stage 3), to a GT4088 (In between the PHR stage 1 and 2). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 I would tend to agree with what you say from what I have read, and since its to be a road car I want it fast spooling. Stage 1 it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveL Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Disagree with this. Going for a much larger turbo like the stage 3 will mean considerably later spool and more lag. A big turbo running low boost will be a MUCH slower street car than a small turbo running average boost. If you want 1st hand experience of the difference, speak to Jamiep as he recently went from a Greddy T88 (around the same as the Phr stage 3), to a GT4088 (In between the PHR stage 1 and 2). Absolutely - be careful choosing the right stage to go for. Stage 1 on a PHR is plenty for road/track use. - you loose traction in most gears.... You can run a stage 1 at about 1.8 bar! but maybe save that for a built engine. Paul at whifbitz has run pretty much all the stages - give him a shout to get the lowdown ( if you already haven't! ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TLicense Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Looks about the right price. I've done three or four quotations for people over the last few month's, and from stock a complete medium sized turbo kit is going to cost about £9k + fitting for a manual, £11k plus fitting for an auto. It is possible to do it for cheaper, but that's the absolute minimum that I would want to put onto my car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Disagree with this. Fine, I'll live - but he does need to think about where he wants to get too ultimately. If you want 1st hand experience of the difference, speak to Jamiep as he recently went from a Greddy T88 (around the same as the Phr stage 3), to a GT4088 (In between the PHR stage 1 and 2). Last time I spoke to Jamie he was still talking about changing the GT4088 for something bigger later in the year. Yes I understand the trade-off between lag and total output and a stage 1/2 may be fine, but I do think you should think about your ultimate aim and work towards that. And I'm not into big laggy turbos myself either, so this isn't about big bhp numbers - my single isn't that large. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Looks about the right price. I've done three or four quotations for people over the last few month's, and from stock a complete medium sized turbo kit is going to cost about £9k + fitting for a manual, £11k plus fitting for an auto. It is possible to do it for cheaper, but that's the absolute minimum that I would want to put onto my car. Care to send me a copy of one of those quotes ? detailed ? for info ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RobSheffield Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 Last time I spoke to Jamie he was still talking about changing the GT4088 for something bigger later in the year. Difference being that JP has taken the time to get used to what he has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I recommend you get the PHR stage 1 - and I'm outta this. All the best with the project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 Cheers Muffleman, i think your right. out of interest, how much difference did the TRD Diff make ? what are the benefits of it ? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 One other thing to bear in mind is that the PHR1 in some ways is almost too good a small single because it's on-boost nearly all the time. Many times I've wished the boost came in a bit further up the rev range so I could cruise off-boost more easily (and cheaply) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted February 12, 2007 Share Posted February 12, 2007 I personally rate the TRD Diff as one of the best mods you can do. Whilst you're asking JamieP about his turbos, ask him about his diff. Jamie is a bloody nice bloke and he'll be open and honest. He recently had a failure with his TRD diff and now has a UK diff so can tell you what the difference is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glosphil Posted February 12, 2007 Author Share Posted February 12, 2007 That makes sense for motorway driving. Is there no way to rig something to turn it off when you want to ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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