imi Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6340935.stm lets hope that this wasn't all just hot air...........just like before.... (remembering the Heathrow incident and the 24 arrested - 24 that didn't have tickets and were nowhere near the airport) OR the Forrestgate incident Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul ashton Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Hope you're right matey. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I don't understand why things like this are considered news! He says himself: "It's not a police state for everybody else because these terror laws are designed specifically for Muslims and that's quite an open fact, so we're the ones who are being locked up, detained and then told to go back to our lives." Muslims are targeted because they're the ones committing the terror crimes, same as coloured people being 'picked on' in London - because the majority of crime is caused by those groups. Obviously then there will be some innocent Muslims arrested..... and then released when they're cleared - so what? Why the need to whinge and moan about it? It just seems like media shit-stirring for some reason. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 I am so fed up with the attitude, surely they want the place to be safe as well or perhaps............ Imi, why post this trash, you bitch on about media this and that and this is quite obviously a story to get up everyones nose. There was a crime in the planning, the police step in prior to the crime to defend the innocent. People get taken in for questioning. It happens all the time, get over it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnK Posted February 8, 2007 Share Posted February 8, 2007 Muslims are targeted because they're the ones committing the terror crimes, same as coloured people being 'picked on' in London - because the majority of crime is caused by those groups. Obviously then there will be some innocent Muslims arrested..... and then released when they're cleared - so what? Why the need to whinge and moan about it? Best post in a long time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Five have now been charged: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6344967.stm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Five down, two to go then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Great news that they have arrested them, lets just hope that if found guilty they can somehow charge them for Treason or Piracy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I thought they weren't death sentences either any more? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 FFS!!!! The UK later (October 10, 2003) acceded to the 13th Protocol, which prohibits the death penalty under all circumstances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz6002 Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I don't understand why things like this are considered news! He says himself: Muslims are targeted because they're the ones committing the terror crimes, same as coloured people being 'picked on' in London - because the majority of crime is caused by those groups. Obviously then there will be some innocent Muslims arrested..... and then released when they're cleared - so what? Why the need to whinge and moan about it? It just seems like media shit-stirring for some reason. Great posting. I'm sick of people moaning about this as well, if we didn't "target" anyone for these crimes then we wouldn't ever catch the guilty ones. Why are people so bitter about enforcing justice and trying to protect the country? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 One man charged with hatching a plot to kidnap a soldier. Hardly 'picking' on them for driving at 31mph is it? If they're guilty then the arrest and questioning of potentially innocent people is justified IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Some of the apathy on show here is astonishing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Some of the apathy on show here is astonishing. I am confused. Which of the posts appears to show apathy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sconchy Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6340935.stm lets hope that this wasn't all just hot air...........just like before.... (remembering the Heathrow incident and the 24 arrested - 24 that didn't have tickets and were nowhere near the airport) OR the Forrestgate incident Better safe than sorry! Welcome to arrest as many as they want I reckon, So what if they are wrong everytime!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sconchy Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 We are living in an era where safety is paramount and unfortunately the minority of muslims have cast a shadow over the rest. My last statement was meant to say so what if they are wrong sometimes, not everytime... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobbeh Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Col, wrong word probably, cynicism would be better. I really find it difficult to understand the protests over these people being arrested/anger directed to the police... with the 'anti-muslim' feeling etc, when this time, especially it was other muslims which appear to be in the firing line so to speak! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 If the police get wind of a Muslim fundamentalist plot to do something nasty - what are they supposed to do? Round up Welsh Jews? Pick me up? WTF? Everyone knows that it is unfortunate that some of these sick f*ckers that feel the need to do terrible things happen to be Muslim, it doesn't mean that they are picking on Muslims for no reason - it means those guys with the guns/bombs/bad attitudes are f*cking it up for everyone else This country is very much fed the f*ck up with the race card and the sectarian card being played every five minutes, aggravated by the feckin media spin on things. GAAAAH! If there is a serial rapist on the loose in an area, they tend to round up all the men in those areas for testing - doesn't mean they are picking on anyone - it is just an identified group that the bad bastard may be in!!! They won't all be the rapist, or even related to - do they piss and moan? Guys arrested in dawn raids all the time for various reasons (arms/drugs) - they never make the news. Get over your f*ckin selves jesus!!! Sorry Imi - not aimed at you buddy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 Col, wrong word probably, cynicism would be better. I really find it difficult to understand the protests over these people being arrested/anger directed to the police... with the 'anti-muslim' feeling etc, when this time, especially it was other muslims which appear to be in the firing line so to speak! Makes sense now B - and I agree BTW. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyboy Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 sdavies - very good post, you have summed up my feelings! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaveriK Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I think the welsh should be rounded up on a weekly basis sdavies. If nothing else it would stop them bleeting on. I'll get me coat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I think the welsh should be rounded up on a weekly basis sdavies. If nothing else it would stop them bleeting on. I'll get me coat You can bloody walk home next time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattyboy Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 I think the welsh should be rounded up on a weekly basis sdavies. If nothing else it would stop them bleeting on. I'll get me coat lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 To be fair to IMI this 'plot' broke just as things were getting abit difficult for Teflon Tony- the media were all up his arse over cash for peerages the day before. I seem to remember the last big terror raid was about 12 hours after Teflon found himself in a tight spot with the media all over him. I get the impression that these 7 would have been arrested anyway, but not perhaps for another 5-6 days and the raid was brought forward to save Teflon's bacon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 9, 2007 Share Posted February 9, 2007 To be fair to IMI this 'plot' broke just as things were getting abit difficult for Teflon Tony- the media were all up his arse over cash for peerages the day before. I seem to remember the last big terror raid was about 12 hours after Teflon found himself in a tight spot with the media all over him. I get the impression that these 7 would have been arrested anyway, but not perhaps for another 5-6 days and the raid was brought forward to save Teflon's bacon. I don't quite see how this works. You are suggesting that Blair and the rest have enough power to arrange early arrests of suspects etc and yet he does not have the power to stop the cash for honours investigation which involves him directly. To my mind, either the police are pawns or they are not. There can't be rules that change as to the situation eh? Doesn't make sense to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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