Guest ROBT Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Are the auto boxed supras just as tail happy as the manuals or is it the other way around? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I've never driven a manual, but since it's your right foot that causes the trouble not the gearbox, I'd say yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Depends on how you drive really, but with the unpredictability of kickdowns, more people probably get caught out with Auto's, esp tt's 2nd turbo n all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Depends on how you drive really, but with the unpredictability of kickdowns, more people probably get caught out with Auto's, esp tt's 2nd turbo n all. I disagree. How can the kick down be unpredictable when it is governed by you shoving your right foot down? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Depends on how you drive really, but with the unpredictability of kickdowns, more people probably get caught out with Auto's, esp tt's 2nd turbo n all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terribleturner Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Im with CJ. The back end will definatly come out on you with the autobox but not as easy or as much as a 6 speed imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Thats what i said initially, ive heard people on here say they were caught out by thier 2nd turbo kicking in, Obviously its ultimately the drivers fault, for not paying attention. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darragh Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 ive got the art of drifting from junctions nearly perfect:d took me a few sets of tyres but i got there only on a couple of occations it caught me out but nothing to serious as i aint going to fast:cool: i ws always saying id hate an auto supra but i have to admit i LOVE it:cool: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Does an auto gearbox recognise when you're driving round a sharp bend? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewie Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 In my auto TT, progressively flooring the volume pedal will help get back end out especially when the 2nd turbo comes in. Really depends on road conditions, tyres and state of mind as well. So you can't blame it all on a torque converter if you stuff it on a roundabout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Does an auto gearbox recognise when you're driving round a sharp bend? No - but what is your point? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 People seem to think the auto kickdown has a mind of it's own. It is easily controlled with your foot, I have never had the kickdown occur at anytime other then when I commanded it to. With regards to the original question. It is easier to get the back end to step out with the manual. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 People seem to think the auto kickdown has a mind of it's own. It is easily controlled with your foot, I have never had the kickdown occur at anytime other then when I commanded it to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I agree with his agreement Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 IS the kickdown point at the same point on the accelerator position all the time or is governed by your rpm and gear? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 kickdown will be governed by road speed/gear/engine load/throttle position. So there is no given variant, apart from your right foot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 the problem with autos is the lack of engine braking, so its hard to save yourself when the backend steps out unexpected Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 The kickdown control is governed by a switch underneath the accelerator. That is apart from the normal operation of the transmission which will shift down when it feels necessary. Which reminds me, I need to remove mine now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Class One Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 the problem with autos is the lack of engine braking, so its hard to save yourself when the backend steps out unexpected I don't think so. I would say during a skid that makes little if no difference at all. I did my skid pan training in an auto and a manual, and the method of regaining control was exactly the same, remove drive to the wheels. Engine braking doesn't come into it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 No - but what is your point? Just that it's not good practice to change gear while you're going around sharp bends as it can unsettle the balance of a car . Is this possible with an auto Supra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 Just that it's not good practice to change gear while you're going around sharp bends as it can unsettle the balance of a car . Is this possible with an auto Supra? The only time the car can change up is if you are accelerating. Obviously, this would be pretty stupid around a sharp bend. If you had slowed down before the sharp bend then it isn't a problem at all. Have you ever driven the auto Supra? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 The only time the car can change up is if you are accelerating. Obviously, this would be pretty stupid around a sharp bend. If you had slowed down before the sharp bend then it isn't a problem at all. Have you ever driven the auto Supra? You just have to accelerate a little for it to change gear? I haven't driven an auto Supra but plenty of other auto cars though. The point I'm making is that with an auto if you have it in "drive" you don't have full control to keep it in one gear, but with a manual car you do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stupra Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 I've never been caught out by the kick down with my soop. You have to respect the power in either a manual or an auto, especially if the roads are damp or greasy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R Black Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 You can use manual mode if you require more control, people talk about no engine braking, with O/D off it does engine brake no? mine certainly seems to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted February 7, 2007 Share Posted February 7, 2007 You just have to accelerate a little for it to change gear? No, as Classone has already pointed out, the gear change is dependant on revs, throttle position etc. Of course, if you are stupid enough to rev through a sharp bend then yes, it will change up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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