ardasaliah Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 My car wont start. No spark- can anyone point me in the right direction? No codes either Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 Check the alarm is de-activated first, usually the cause... Are you sure it is no spark? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 Yep- alarm is off. No spark on any of the packs. is it possible the ignitor pack has had it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 Is there an Ignition fuse I can check? The car produced no spark on any of the coils. What are the possible causes? any ideas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markymark Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 At a guess Crank shaft sensor?( I'm only saying this as my other car had the same problem, at first I thought it was the immobiliser but after by passing this it turned out it was the Crank shaft sensor). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 Thanks- is it a pain in the arse to get to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markymark Posted February 5, 2007 Share Posted February 5, 2007 I had a mate fit it - itwasn't a massive job, the massive job part was finding what wasn't working. Part will probably need to be replaced - mine cost £55. Not sure what else to suggest mate - sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 5, 2007 Author Share Posted February 5, 2007 So it can be two things- Crank sensor or Ignitor pack- is there anything else I should check? Just a thought can the ECU detect a failed crank sensor while the car does not fire up if you see what I mean. When does the ecu pick up faults? can it detect it while on ignition 2 setting just before the starter kicks in - I have no codes stored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markymark Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 This might be worth a come on people help the fella out. might be worth given wifbitz a contact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 A failed Crank Pos Sensor would throw a code, surely? I've probably got a spare if you can't get one locally. Let me know an address and I'll stick it in the post if you like Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absz Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Can you hear the fuel pump when ignition is first switched on ? Does the engine light illuminate when the ignition is on ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 A failed Crank Pos Sensor would throw a code, surely? I've probably got a spare if you can't get one locally. Let me know an address and I'll stick it in the post if you like No codes at all- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 Can you hear the fuel pump when ignition is first switched on ? Does the engine light illuminate when the ignition is on ? Yep the fuel pump does prime and all the light illuminate. The battery is fine as i charged it over night. The problem started when I fired her up ran for about a 2 seconds and then cut out. No more spark. I will see if I can check the sensors with an ohmeter (sp) I have no spark on any of the plugs- It could be the following- 1) crank sensor (no code stored 2) Camshaft sensor x2 (no code stored) -would this cause a total lost of spark? 3) Ignitor (if the ignitor packs up it is not registered by the ECU so I am thinking this might be the problem HELP! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 So it can be two things- Crank sensor or Ignitor pack- is there anything else I should check? Just a thought can the ECU detect a failed crank sensor while the car does not fire up if you see what I mean. When does the ecu pick up faults? can it detect it while on ignition 2 setting just before the starter kicks in - I have no codes stored. ? anyone know the answer to this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlanM Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Mine was like this last winter when I was waiting to get my eyes done. Turned out to be Optimax which had gone completely off over the 4 month period. I took a lot of convincing that was the prob but it was. Put in a can of octane booster and away she went, bit rough to begion with but a couple of miles and she was fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 Mine was like this last winter when I was waiting to get my eyes done. Turned out to be Optimax which had gone completely off over the 4 month period. I took a lot of convincing that was the prob but it was. Put in a can of octane booster and away she went, bit rough to begion with but a couple of miles and she was fine Thanks - but i am reluctant to think this is the case- as I atually have no spark at the coils. The fuel condition will have no affect on wheather a car sparks or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredm Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 Take a look in the "Club Downloads" section. Look in the "Engine" thread and you will see "Diagnostic test procedures" or something similar. Follow the guide for igniton system, that should point you in the right direction. A failed Crank Sensor should put the MIL light on. Does your MIL light illuminate when you switch on the ignition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 Take a look in the "Club Downloads" section. Look in the "Engine" thread and you will see "Diagnostic test procedures" or something similar. Follow the guide for igniton system, that should point you in the right direction. A failed Crank Sensor should put the MIL light on. Does your MIL light illuminate when you switch on the ignition? Checked for codes. No codes stored- the mil light just flashes continuosly indicating no code. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I had similar with mine, and no codes stored. Have a look for the little grey plug next to the VSVs at the front of turbo #1 - mine had come out / not been plugged back in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 6, 2007 Author Share Posted February 6, 2007 I had similar with mine, and no codes stored. Have a look for the little grey plug next to the VSVs at the front of turbo #1 - mine had come out / not been plugged back in! Is that the plug for the Crank sensor. I think its somewhere round there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 I think so, yes. In the dark, I initially thought it was the plug for the VSV, but I was enlightened by the helpful members on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
absz Posted February 6, 2007 Share Posted February 6, 2007 the plug for the crank sensor has two wires and the connecter plug is attached to the drivers side chassis leg front side (grey one) how did you check for no spark? did you remove the coil packs and made sure to ground the metal body of the plug to earth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ardasaliah Posted February 7, 2007 Author Share Posted February 7, 2007 I did ground it- def no spark. Will check the crank sensor- Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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