hadyn Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Alright there folks, does anyone have any links of further info for any good diet regimes out there? I just need to lose a stone or two and my well matured beer belly. Being a man and very new to this game, can anyone recommend one that will help? Many thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Atkins diet mate, just stick to anything that walks flies or swims and you WILL loose weight. No carbs though, i.e sugar,spuds,rice,bread,yogurt,milk,pasta and the like Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Erm, dont drink beer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 any links then kids? I need something to tell me what to do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Atkins diet mate, just stick to anything that walks flies or swims and you WILL loose weight. No carbs though, i.e sugar,spuds,rice,bread,yogurt,milk,pasta and the like Atkins is bollocks. The silly old sod who invented it died overweight. The NHSdirect site has this to say: Recently, diets that recommend you eat lots of protein and very little carbohydrate have become popular. These high protein-low carbohydrate diets - known as ketogenic diets - are intended to work by forcing your body to begin ketosis to burn fats and create quick weight loss. Because long periods of ketosis can be dangerous to your kidneys and liver, ketogenic diets are never recommended by health professionals for more than short-term use, typically no longer than 14 days. Many nutritionists warn their patients - especially women in the early stages of pregnancy - against following them at all. How to lose weight: Eat sensibly and exercise at least three times a week for 30mins upwards. If you can lose weight by changing your eating habits rather than by cutting out whole food groups you will be more able to remain at a lower weight rather than piling it back on again when the current 'diet' is over. I eat fairly sensible, healthy meals but I'm partial to one or two packets of crisp and a bar of chocolate each day. Following a shock at the docs I cut out the crisps and chocolate, went walking three times a week for an hour and went from 18st exactly to 17st 6 in about 5 1/2 weeks. The good thing is that, despite Xmas excess, I haven't put any of it back on. That might be because we went walking every day over the Xmas break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 How to lose weight: Eat sensibly and exercise at least three times a week for 30mins upwards. Spot on. The most sensible and healthy way to trim down. Less in more out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Massey Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 the kellogs lose a jean size challenge.....tells you what to do on the telly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Atkins is bollocks. The silly old sod who invented it died overweight. The NHSdirect site has this to say: How to lose weight: Eat sensibly and exercise at least three times a week for 30mins upwards. Yeah right, and in 3 months you loose a couple of pounds. If you want to loose alot of weight quick the Atkins works. You can drop a stone in a week easy. There are also many conflicting views on the atkins diet, some good and some BOLLOCKs as you put it. IMHO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Yeah right, and in 3 months you loose a couple of pounds. If you want to loose alot of weight quick the Atkins works. You can drop a stone in a week easy. There are also many conflicting views on the atkins diet, some good and some BOLLOCKs as you put it. IMHO You are more likely to permanently reduce your weight with a slow, steady loss rather than a dramatic crash diet. If these diets really worked in the long-term the companies behind them would soon go out of business. What else explains the amount of fat people saying "I've tried every diet out there and none of them work"? They just drop weight and go straight back up when they start eating normally again. They haven't trained themselves to eat properly and end up yo-yoing up and down in weight. I'd rather lose a stone every two or three months and allow my body and lifestyle to adapt to that rather than shocking it over a week. One of the main problems with weight loss is one that is prevalent through all areas of life these days. People just aren't willing to wait for results or put any real effort in. It's all 'I want this and I want it now'. Pathetic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 You are correct re the lifestyle / healthy eating thing, however most beer drinking blokes will not stick to this. For a quick 2 week fix and to loose alot of weight the Atkins diet works, ask anybody who has stuck to it. Incidently Atkins did not die over weight below, http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-02-10-atkins-statements_x.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 You are correct re the lifestyle / healthy eating thing, however most beer drinking blokes will not stick to this. For a quick 2 week fix and to loose alot of weight the Atkins diet works, ask anybody who has stuck to it. Incidently Atkins did not die over weight below, http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/2004-02-10-atkins-statements_x.htm Duh! of course the Atkins people are going to say that. Sheesh! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Imo, it seems that anyone wanting to lose weight is always trying to avoid doing excercise and choosing some fad diet instead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayman Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Eat less more often, 3 main meals and 2 snacks. Eat more low GI foods, porridge,wholemeal stuff, brown rice etc. Start doing some weight training and/or cardio and it'll speed your metabolism up, the fat will drop off you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Imo, it seems that anyone wanting to lose weight is always trying to avoid doing excercise and choosing some fad diet instead. My point exactly. Eat less more often, 3 main meals and 2 snacks. Eat more low GI foods, porridge,wholemeal stuff, brown rice etc. Start doing some weight training and/or cardio and it'll speed your metabolism up, the fat will drop off you. In English: Eat sensibly and exercise more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffvalenti Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Up until recently I used to help run 2 slimming clubs. As Martin is saying, its definitely "slow and steady wins the race. I've known lots of people do really well, but it's really 95% in the mind. If you're really determined to do it, it's easy, if you're doing it because you feel you ought to, its a lot more difficult. Have a look on http://www.slimming-world.com/ If you want a copy of the latest eating plan book, drop me a PM And the real answer to weight loss is "Eat less crap, do more exercise" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Duh! of course the Atkins people are going to say that. Sheesh! And I knew you would say that..... At the end of the day you do what you think suits you, I was simply giving my opinion as a member asked the diet question. I personally lost about a stone in a week and thats about all I need to lose to get rid of a bit of a beer gut. I am now 6 ft and 13 stone which is fine. I am not condoning or recommending anyone to do this diet , lifestyle changes with healthy eating and regular exercise is of course better. But as I said for a quick 2 week fix Atkins looses you weight,end of Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Angarak Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 Another alternative is Lipotrim, ask your local pharmacy. All diets should be done in conjunction with physical exercise atleast 3 times a week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grahamc Posted January 21, 2007 Share Posted January 21, 2007 A diet of protein only, generally has a negative on people. Most people will suffer from restlessness, cravings, mood swings (very grumpy), etc. A good mix of protein and carbs is what you need, with suffiecent exercise. Have a look at bodyforlife.com they have a decent list of good proteins, carbs and veggies, and all you have to do, is pick 1 protein, 1 carb and at least 2 veggies for each meal. They also have some of the hard-core eating plans that some of their champions have used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hadyn Posted January 21, 2007 Author Share Posted January 21, 2007 thanks for all this, i'll be doing some research and then i'll go for it like rocky Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupraAyf Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 I have noticed that people use the word 'diet' in the same vein as they use 'crash course' on how to loose weight. The concept of a diet just relates to your daily consumption levels of food. Due to my work, I often see high rates of intense physical activity and I usually cap my calorific intake at 2500 per day and a maximum of 90g of fat (max recommended for a bloke). It makes sense, therefore, that if I'm sitting on my arse all day then I don't need to consume 2500 cals/day so I change it to around 12-1400 calories and around 30-40g of fat intake. This doesn't equate to much food if you eat the wrong types of scoff, but if you consume relatively healthy food stuffs, then you'll be fine and every meal will be catered for. Easy: Lower the calories and fat intake and moderately increase your exercise - you don't need to bust your bollocks in the gym all day though;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 Atkins... ahh the usual arguments Problem with Atkins is that it seems that most people have not read the book, or the information, or any of the literature. It is NOT a carb free diet. Yes the first 2 weeks are restrictive and very low carb, but after that you are meant to introduce more veges, fruits etc. If you were to read the 'maintenance' section of the plan then it is a perfectly healthy balanced diet, almost identical to any weight loss plan on-going section. Yes people gain weight back when the 'come off' Atkins, but that's the point- you're not meant to!! Just as with ANY diet or healthy eating plan or lifestyle plan or whatever fluff you want to call it!! AND he strongly encouraged exercise and iterated how important it was to a healthy lifestyle. Many doctors recommend it as long as it is followed CORRECTLY. If you eat smaller amounts and exercise and lose weight then when you stop doing that you will gain it back again. Same difference. So basically IMO the key is finding a plan that appeals to you and you can stick to. I just can't ever stick to them. Useless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted January 22, 2007 Share Posted January 22, 2007 You also need vitamins though, taking a good arrangement of supplements can be very helpful assuming you have a reasonably good diet and get some form of exercise. Most importantly is to DRINK WATER!!! If you drink at least the recommended amount of 2 litres a day you'll lose weight. The easiest way to look at it (how I was told once); is that the body needs a certain amount of everything, including fat, carbs, vitamin C, iron, etc. etc. - EVERYTHING! If you cut out ANY of the things your body will attempt to store what it has left - diets work by forcing your body to use it's reserves - trouble is when you stop the diet (which you will, you have to otherwise you get ill) your body thinks "Shit I haven't had any of this stuff for weeks I better store it up and ration it!" - so you put it all back on. If you give your body everything it needs, after a week or so your body thinks "Hey I'm getting a fruitful supply of all this stuff, I might as well start getting rid of these reserves!". WATER is important -missed out by a lot of diets- it is the one thing that your body needs in order to clean out all the useless crap in your body - if you change your diet suddenly today and start drinking LOTS of water, your wee will turn bright orange/yellow - this is a GOOD thing. Diets do work, but it is only ever temporary. You have a choice: change your lifestyle permanently, or accept you're getting on a bit and will never be 'the bod' again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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