Rob Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 You lot sound like your pissed because i said IMO plasma's are bollocks. I do, but what does my opinion matter to you? Scott =op I'm not annoyed at all about your views on Plasma TVs, but I always take the opportunity to stop the same old urban myths being retold. I can't have a telly bigger then 21", because I live in a lighthouse and the wall are too curved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Did he? What was the source?? I think he quoted manufacturers figures but... LCD pundits also point to the fact that LCDs have a longer lifespan than plasma screens. This was true of earlier plasma models, which would lose half of their brightness after more than 20,000 hours of viewing. Later plasma generations have bumped that up to anything between 30,000 and 60,000 hours. LCDs, on the other hand, are guaranteed for 60,000 hours. Theres a quote. Now, read into that and you will probably realise that after 60000 hours of viewing the TV is fooked. Think of a Plasma like you would radiation. It has a half life. This doesn't mean that after 600000 hours it suddenly halfs in brightness. It means that it constantly drops over time. Listen guys, this wasn't meant to be a big pissing contest about who has the best TV. I bought what was best for me after much investigation. The fact that i don't own an LCD screen or a Plasma and yet i say plasma aint the best kinda says i'm not bias. You lot sound like your pissed because i said IMO plasma's are bollocks. I do, but what does my opinion matter to you? You bought the TV you wanted.. didn't u? Let this guy digest all the information given to him and make up his own mind. Scott =op Whos going to keep their tv for 20 years ? Half-life ? Whos going to keep their tv for ten years...Plasma or LCD ? I'm not on your case personally, but to say plasmas are crap and only last two years is ill-informed and not the sort of information the original question poster deserves. I put at least as much time and effort into researching and choosing my display as you have, and I chose a plasma. Markets exist due to customer demand, if plasma were crap, the market would die, not be expanding at the level it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Did i say the plasma needed regassed? Sorry, that really is an urban myth. They can't be regassed you just need to buy a new tv. The point i'm making that u are missing is in my quote. The half life of the brightness is say 20000 hours. Lets for the sake of it call that 5 years of viewing. Yes i know, thats 11 hours. I do actually have my TV on for around 11 hours but i know most people dont but for the sake of this discussion every tv is made exactly the same and everyone watches it for the same amount of time. Now follow me here... Halflife is 5 years. This means after 2.5 years it will have lost a quarter of its brightness. After 1.25 years it has lost 1/8 of its brightness. Now, that to me, just aint good enough. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Whos going to keep their tv for 20 years ? Half-life ? Whos going to keep their tv for ten years...Plasma or LCD ? I'm not on your case personally, but to say plasmas are crap and only last two years is ill-informed and not the sort of information the original question poster deserves. I put at least as much time and effort into researching and choosing my display as you have, and I chose a plasma. Markets exist due to customer demand, if plasma were crap, the market would die, not be expanding at the level it is. For fook sake will u take a chill pill. I didn't say they all lasted 2 years and they were ready for the bin. I said i had heard of it happening often with the cheaper ones and in order to avoid it a lot of money had to be spent on the more expensive makes and models. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 For fook sake will u take a chill pill. I didn't say they all lasted 2 years and they were ready for the bin. I said i had heard of it happening often with the cheaper ones and in order to avoid it a lot of money had to be spent on the more expensive makes and models. Scott =op A chill-pill ?....moi ? Shit laddie if I was any cooler, Steve McQueen would raise up out of his grave, shake me by the hand and climb back in head hung low. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Here is an example of a Plasma that i would buy. IMO again IMO panasonic is the best make for plasma's and always has been. When others were selling them for 1-1.5k they were selling them for 4k and with good reason. They lasted http://www.panasonic.co.uk/plasma-tv/th42px600cab/index.htm If i was to buy a plasma that is the exact one i would have. The best price i can find online is £1643. Now, i would like to think that this tv would have none of the drawbacks that the lesser makes and models do so in that case i would be very happy. I can get an LCD TV that doesn't have those drawbacks anyway for £921 that is the same size with higher resolution and more connectivity. Now i know that plasma's can be bought for much less nowadays but as i said. You get what you pay for. You can get a lesser make plasma, that IMO will not have the same quality, resolution, brightness or longevity, for less money than an LCD but if you want one that will have all of the above in abundance you need to pay more than an LCD. Does that maybe clarify more my standing? Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Scotster you have made my day and it's only half eight!! The TV you posted the link to is the 42" version of the telly I bought. I got it from a small shop in Bolton who are renound for their knowledge. I couldn't beat their price on the internet either. They gave me 5 years and a free DVD for my kiddie. I don't part with my cash easy as most people on here have seen me trying to get a car!! So I research every little bit as I never buy crap and get ripped off. Thanks though, seriously. You have made my day. Everyone will have different opinions on stuff so thats fine by me mate! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 As a general rule of thumb, buy plasma if going for 37" or bigger. Buy LCD is smaller than 37". Early Plasmas did suffer from picture deteriation after a few years. Now adays technology has moved on a lot and you will not see any noticeable defects on a plasma for probably ten years of normal watching which is way longer than most people keep there units anyway. I personaly own a Panasonic Plasma-(42PX60B) which can now be bought for less than a grand and it is nothing short of superb. You will have to spend twice the money to get anywhere near the same image quality in an LCD and even then I would argue than LCD's still suffer motion blur problems on fast moving pictures on screens larger than 37". Dont go by shop recommendations as they dont usually know what they are talking about and the pictures are rarely ever set up properly in stalls so dont give a good representatin of the TV's true picture potential. If you want good advice on anything like this go read up on the AVForums and you will find the Pro's & Cons for both Plasma & LCD's. Carl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I too have a Panasonic Plasma, 37" vieira, and it's stunning - wouldn't touch an LCD for a TV. No manufacturer in this day and age is gonna be able to produce a £1k+ TV that only lasts two years, there would be riots Oh, and the 42PX60B is great, thinking of getting one and bumping the 37" to the bedroom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Oh, and the 42PX60B is great, thinking of getting one and bumping the 37" to the bedroom. Looks like we've got the same telly mate!! Love mine too, although I hardly watch it these days.!! Sounds like you've done enough "bumping" in the bedroom, will you ever learn your lesson!! Then again if you do keep knocking out kids, they say you should buy a telly!! H. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robbieg Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 ok my two penny....!!! there are only four firms that make the screens for plasmas!!!??? how they are controled is the key etc... so gassing issue from one to another is ...!! and have you tryed OWL VISION in uckfield east sussex..!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muffleman Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Looks like we've got the same telly mate!! Love mine too, although I hardly watch it these days.!! Sounds like you've done enough "bumping" in the bedroom, will you ever learn your lesson!! Then again if you do keep knocking out kids, they say you should buy a telly!! H. Yeah definitely need a telly in the bedroom, two kids is enough Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 My advice is don't touch a plasma with a barge pole. They are absolutely bollocks and the gas runs out with them usually in around 2 years. Wise words, looks like you know your stuff mate Gas has been leaking from my plasma screeen for months on end, incapacitating my cats who sleep not far from it and rendering me into a zombie-like state (not that you can tell it from 'normal') Good thing that you give advice to others, so they can avoid certain death. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Wise words, looks like you know your stuff mate Gas has been leaking from my plasma screeen for months on end, incapacitating my cats who sleep not far from it and rendering me into a zombie-like state (not that you can tell it from 'normal') Good thing that you give advice to others, so they can avoid certain death. Keep up the good work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 booyakasha *tsak*! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Ha ha ha ha, good stuff I have a plasma and am 100% happy with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Just my 2p worth but I just got my 50' LG Plasma last week and am VERY chuffed with it! :d Saved myself £700 in the sales as well so made it an even better bargain! Must admit being a London worker and not having anyone at home using it during the day, mine gets maybe 3hrs of use a day so should last a while I hope!!! Picture quality wise, can't be compared to anything including my mates 42' Panasonic Viera - He even rated my LG over the Panasonic and being an ex-manager for PowerHouse and knowing all the tech bumpf that was good enough for me. Horses for courses I guess but I love it!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Wise words, looks like you know your stuff mate Gas has been leaking from my plasma screeen for months on end, incapacitating my cats who sleep not far from it and rendering me into a zombie-like state (not that you can tell it from 'normal') Good thing that you give advice to others, so they can avoid certain death. Keep up the good work. No fair....how come you dont get the 'for fooks sake take a chill pill' treatment:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 No fair....how come you dont get the 'for fooks sake take a chill pill' treatment:) coz i iz da geeza i.e. in Matrix terms, did I take the blue pill or the red pil... watcha - there is no pill dude HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outatime Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Just my 2p worth but I just got my 50' LG Plasma last week and am VERY chuffed with it! :d Saved myself £700 in the sales as well so made it an even better bargain! Must admit being a London worker and not having anyone at home using it during the day, mine gets maybe 3hrs of use a day so should last a while I hope!!! Picture quality wise, can't be compared to anything including my mates 42' Panasonic Viera - He even rated my LG over the Panasonic and being an ex-manager for PowerHouse and knowing all the tech bumpf that was good enough for me. Horses for courses I guess but I love it!!!!! Is it the 50PC1D? I'm looking for a 50" and it's between that and a Sony DLP rear projection at the moment.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter P Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 That's the baby!!! Is a truly AMAZING tv with beautiful clarity and a nice fresh look as well. The price makes this probably the best 50' plasma available I reckon! I'd highly recommend it mate as it just looks awesome and does everything you'll need it to do for a very reasonable price tag. Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 I've got the Samsung HD 42" plasma (a grand from John Lewis, with the 5year warranty) It is superb, and I am a fussy bastid! Mind you, they are not all the same, even if the model number is the same. I had the original one swapped because of a lazy pixel, and the replacement is better in all respects, including blacks and colour accuracy (both were carefully setup with DVEssentials) Thank God(s) some gas has not evaporated yet, so picture is excellent. When it runs out of plasma, I'll just pump it again and it will be good as new, lol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dini_the_owl Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 hi mate, just to let you know im a av engineer and have alot to do with these units, The only one ive seen thats superior to anything i have come across is the 50" panasonic plasma,I think the 42's are down to £800 at the moment which is really cheap, the 50's are better though a little more cash, but definately a must. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Has anyone here who said plasmas are great not bought one? Anyone here not got a supra that think supra's are the best car on the planet? I don't have a plasma, i don't have an LCD and i don't have a Supra. I am totally unbias in my verdict, you lot are all bias because you have plasma's and don't like them being knocked. Fact, the resolution of LCD is higher than Plasma so picture quality is better. Best picture quality? Still CRT. Fact, the motion blur in LCD tv's is due to the higher resolution and the fact that the pixles hold the colour for a split second longer than the plasma. Best for motion? Still CRT. Best TV for picture quality CRT Best TV for money Still CRT they are just massive If you want the best picture for the best price and you have a livingroom the size of a basketball court buy a 50" CRT. I knew this thread would turn into a pissing contest with most of the plasma users doing the pissing. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyW Posted January 17, 2007 Share Posted January 17, 2007 Girlfriends uncle bought his 42" plasma nearly 4 years ago, he's never had a problem with it and the picture quality is better now than it was when it was new. Ive only seen it a handfull of times since he had it, latest time was this xmas and the picture has definately improved. By the way ive got a 42" samsung plasma. Has anyone's plasma actually failed? by that i mean dead pixels etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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