hogmaw Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 You know the ones with the hook that gets caught in your the lip. There have been so many complaints that apparently the ads will be pulled. Not right, they should make them MORE graphic if anything. A hook in your lip is nothing compared to lung cancer. I am so glad that I stopped a few years back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 To be honest I think they're pointless. If you're a smoker then chances are, graphic adverts aren't going to make a blind bit of difference. It might be for a just cause, but they are too graphic for public viewing before the watershed IMO. Kids will still see them - the same goes for the posters too. If a private company had tried to get away with advertising like that, it would be pulled immediately because it might traumatise kids, the government should abide by the same rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 When I smoked , I knew it would /could kill me, I did not need any stupid adverts telling me this no matter how graphic they were. Almost everytime I lit up I knew I shouldnt and I knew I always wanted to pack up. Its a decision the individual has to make for themselves. However the smoking ban which comes into force later this year will go along way in helping people to pack in or at least cut down as there simply wont be anywhere to smoke. I do not think that people should have to be subjected to passive smoking BUT as a non smoker the ban does NOT sit well with me . I do not believe that a government should be telling its citizens what they can or cannot do and where they can or cannot do it. It is NOT illegal to smoke. YET Now I know that it is to protect non smoking staff etc etc who work in public places , but I think we should all watch out. Today its smoking, whats next ????? They are already looking at the black boxes in cars , monitoring usage,more importantly they can tell where we have been and when we went and how fast. Maybe a law will be introduced when we can only go for a beer at the weekend, yet must be home by midnight. You may laugh, but not as much as somebody 30 years would have laughed if you told them they couldnt have a smoke in their working mans club over a pint one day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I agree with you to a certain extent. The ban is already here in scotland and it didn't really do much to stop people smoking up here. The only real benefit from it has been for the non smokers, like myself, can now go out and socialise without having to breathe in second hand smoke. If we didn't want to be subjected to that we had to simply not go out to pubs because of someone elses actions that we have no control over. Now if a smoker doesn't want to go to a pub its their own actions thats stopping them. I do have an issue with the smoking ban though, they have simply went far too far. There are many places that could easily have a smoking room, or bus shelter type thing outside but its not allowed because it is not allowed any more than 60% coverage or something like that. If a smoking room was made, it would only be smokers in it. I see no problem with that yet its illegal. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 The "big issue" with all this is that even in a smoking room enviroment there could be staff who have to enter that room ,one way or the other and they are going to be subjected to passive smoking. In an ideal world I suppose you would have to employ staff who smoke to operate in the smoking areas , but that is never going to work in practise. I am absolutley sure it will at least cut peoples smoking down, it has to unless they would be nipping out side every 20 mins for a fag. I can remember bans on airplanes , bans in cinemas , bans in shopping centres but mainly a ban in the work place. I work in IT and not so many years ago we could smoke in the main offices. There was always a degree of conflict between "a few moaning women" about the smoke etc etc but nothing was ever done about it. However when a smoking ban came in to force ,after an initial knee jerk reaction from us "unclean" smokers, we accepted it . Within no time nobody gave it another thought, okay we nipped off for a fag between breaks , but to be honest I bet it cut me down by 5 or 6 fags at least a day. So it must work, a gun to the smokers head tactic but it works. If the government really wanted to stamp it out , why not ban it or put tax up to a ridiculous extent, some will say rightly they already have.Make fags £15 a pack. The truth of the matter is they want people tp smoke , as much as they want us to drive our cars and drink alcohol.Either that or brace yourselves for a massive hike in income tax or other robbing taxes like capital gains tax or inheritance tax, THATS ANOTHER STORY :( :( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Yip the government are out to screw us and always will be. Up here i'll be honest, the people i know who smoke actually DO go outside for a ciggy every 20 mins and i aint joking. Totally agree that the smoking ban in the workplace where i work made a massive difference but thats only because the guys aren't allowed to leave the premises during working hours and they can't smoke inside lol. I'll elaborate a bit on my comments about where i think they have went too far. At one of the pubs i know they have a beer garden. It had 10ft high fencing all the way around and according to the law people could not smoke outside in the beer garden because more than x% was covered. They had to tear down part of the fencing to make it ok for people to smoke. Now, this is an open air beer garden. Its things like that where i see them going too far. I agree with you about staff going into said rooms though. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I thought that the smoking-in-enclosed-public-spaces-ban was a moral outrage until my girlfriend started working in a pub - then the thought of what the passive smoking was doing to her made me change my mind. Which just goes to show how selfish I am! I honestly think that deep down most people really couldn't give two hoots until it directly affects them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 See thats the sad thing. I agree that all these ad's, regardless of how hard they try to get the message accross, achieve nothing. Its only when it affects someone close to you that you actually take notice. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Shit ,Ive started a big smoking row at work now, seems that Im the devils advocate ........ and I dont even smoke. Oh , they are having a go at me now , twin tubo gas guzzling etc blah blah LATERS :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Shit ,Ive started a big smoking row at work now, seems that Im the devils advocate ........ and I dont even smoke. Oh , they are having a go at me now , twin tubo gas guzzling etc blah blah LATERS :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Shit ,Ive started a big smoking row at work now, seems that Im the devils advocate ........ and I dont even smoke. Oh , they are having a go at me now , twin tubo gas guzzling etc blah blah LATERS :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 how the hell has the multiple posts happened Sorry , really dont know :search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Shit ,Ive started a big smoking row at work now, seems that Im the devils advocate ........ and I dont even smoke. Oh , they are having a go at me now , twin tubo gas guzzling etc blah blah LATERS :D Shit ,Ive started a big smoking row at work now, seems that Im the devils advocate ........ and I dont even smoke. Oh , they are having a go at me now , twin tubo gas guzzling etc blah blah LATERS :D Shit ,Ive started a big smoking row at work now, seems that Im the devils advocate ........ and I dont even smoke. Oh , they are having a go at me now , twin tubo gas guzzling etc blah blah LATERS :DYou can say that again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 And again Good job u don't drive an X5 or Landrover. Scott =op Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 oh , okay then Shit ,Ive started a big smoking row at work now, seems that Im the devils advocate ........ and I dont even smoke. Oh , they are having a go at me now , twin tubo gas guzzling etc blah blah LATERS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian R Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 They haven't put me off as I light up a ciggy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 They haven't put me off as I light up a ciggy ENJOY :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 the thing is surely the gov are shooting themselfs in the foot as they reap in soo much tax on fags so if they cut the number of people smoking they cut their income so that means they have to tax other things ie petrol! Now I am a non smoker and personaly cant see the attraction, however I havnt got a problem with peopple who do smoke unless I am eating and they are sat at the same table or at work if they nip out every 20min and do not clock off for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra666 Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Lets face it, non smokers have been putting up with awful blue filled smokey rooms for the best part of 450 years now and it's time for them to shut up. It would be nice to come home from a night out and not stink, u know all the times iv'e been to america it's never been a problem people quite happily go outside, unlike this country you get people ranting on 'Im British I can smoke where I want!' YAWN....................... My parents smoke like they are going out of fashion, and It upsets me to think that this has shortened their time on this planet and with me, no matter what I say after god knows how many years of pleading with them to stop the can't/won't Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTIN R Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 when in Scotland and Ireland I feel its far better that people do not smoke in bars etc I choose not to smoke and I shouldnt have to smoke other peoples via passive smoking, if the ads stop a few from smoking then they have to be a good thing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter richards Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I agree with you to a certain extent. The ban is already here in scotland and it didn't really do much to stop people smoking up here. The only real benefit from it has been for the non smokers, like myself, can now go out and socialise without having to breathe in second hand smoke. If we didn't want to be subjected to that we had to simply not go out to pubs because of someone elses actions that we have no control over. Now if a smoker doesn't want to go to a pub its their own actions thats stopping them. I do have an issue with the smoking ban though, they have simply went far too far. There are many places that could easily have a smoking room, or bus shelter type thing outside but its not allowed because it is not allowed any more than 60% coverage or something like that. If a smoking room was made, it would only be smokers in it. I see no problem with that yet its illegal. Scott =opjust because people are now not going to be able to light up whereever , and whenever they like . we now have to construct places for them to be able to continue their habit , tax payers money again . when i was younger i used to love playing snooker/pool but couldnt tollerate the smoke that was always in these places , but there was never someone saying we should make smoke free snooker/pool clubs , it was just tough if you didnt smoke back then , and obviously in the minority , you didnt go to these places . back to the point , i think its the pubs and clubs worrying about their trade , hoping to keep punters by providing smoking shelters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 The ads aren't harsh enough. Should be 30 mins every night showing a different autopsy and the dissection of heavy smokers lungs, perhaps a few amputations from hardened smokers that were told "Give up smoking or lose your limbs", but found it too much of a bind to give up after umpty-seven years of smoking... traumatise kids? Screw that - they shouldn't show ANY News broadcasts before the watershed whatsoever then... The news is freakin disturbing.. How about the loss of your parents through smoking habits? That has gotta be more disturbing than being told smoking is bad!? I think it sits in your mind - I smoke, that black gunge will eat me from the inside out... quite a powerful message. Of course, there are the hardened addicts that will find ANY means to justify their habit - but f*ckit, DARWINs theories in action in those cases (I simply wish I didn't have to stink of stale fag ash the night after going out - even if I don't go out drinking!!). Water is wet, the sky is blue, wasps are evil vindictive insects, smoking kills, ignorance is bliss, smokers taxes prop up the fat lazy government - tis the way of the world. Smokers pay uber tax and also vote, this is the only reason why the health destroying cancerous wasting habit hasn't been outlawed! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim_palmer Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 It reminds me of Hellraiser when the hooks tear them apart, definately not suitable before watershed IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henk Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 I am a smoker with nigh on no will power, I travel a lot to the US and there, being a smoker is like carrying around some highly infectious disease, and wearing a plackard stating it publicly I don't mind it at all, in fact when I go over there I give up for the length of my visit (usually 2-3 weeks). It's easy to give up something when you can't do it anywhere However, back in the UK it is all so easy and within a week I usually start again, this new Law...... I welcome it!!! Maybe now I can really conquer this!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 All this anti-smoking stuff is going to encourage young uns to start smoking. It will make them all super cool rebels, anti social and frowned upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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