Daston Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Hi guys Well looks like my heater matrix is ok, however when I went to flush out the coolant there was no need as its dripping all over my drive! I think it is the water pump (pully by altinator) as there is a big pipe there comeing off the rad. I can squeeze the pipe and when I do water comes out behind by the engine block (not from the pipe tho). Any ideas on what this is? Also my coolant is a real shitty rusty colour could this have anything to do with it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Below your water pump looks dry, and generally has a small pipe coming off the drain on it to under the engine. Have a look for that pipe off the water pump first. It could be something simple like the thermostat gasket, which is in the region of the water. Another case could be a core plug, but I wouldn't of thought that would be the case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 the water is splashing where the sump meets the bottom end on that lip I shall remove all the air intake and have a snoop around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Looking at the picture attached, the water pump is the green bit, if it where leaking I would expect the area coloured Red to be wet, the purple bit is the thermostat housing, and that seems to be the most logical place to start looking TBH. Unless the water pump drain is routed around to that area (which would be rather strange). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Ok just taken off the heat shield and air intake and found out where the water is going at an alarming rate! Plus why my heater died first And by the look of it it has been leaking for some time.........unless the rust is normal I have marked where the water is comeing from, on the water pump leak to the right it comes from that area but from behind. This is where the water is sitting, should it rust that much? Oh lost a whole rad's worth of water overnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 If the red marks on your first picture are where it is all leaking from (sorry really couldn't understand what you wrote) then the larger item is your thermostat housing, that will have either a gasket or rubber O-ring keeping it together. The other, smaller, itme is a coolant pipe for the rear of the engine by the looks of it. Attached pic shows the housing for the thermostat and water pipe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 yeah thats it! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 Could the smaller pipe be leaking due to the gasket as well or could this be something else? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Could be, not hard to check. Probably not expensive from Mr T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 O-ring for Thermostat is 16325-62010 Smaller Water Outlet Gasket is 16325-46010 Hope that helps, probably a few pennies from Mr T. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 oh how hard is it to get at the thermistat will it have to be got at from underneath? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 I've done them from above, although you need to clear the area completely above it. You can get to it from below but I think it is actually harder to do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 ok cool so clear the right hand exhaust manifold or is that not nessisary? Also is it possible to remove the dizzy? I have been told by the old man that this could cause problems if I wire it back up wrong due to ignision timings Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 13, 2007 Share Posted January 13, 2007 Well I've done TT's, and by remove things I meant remove the airbox etc etc, it's only held in with 2 nuts, pretty straight forward to get off. Remove the water pipe, put a socket on the visible nut to remove, add an extension to the socket and then slide it round the back to get the second one, part off, job done. Refitting is the reverse of removal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 13, 2007 Author Share Posted January 13, 2007 sweet cheers will see if that is the cause. If it is the water pump that has died how hard is it to remove? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Never done a water pump, but I really can't see it being that. If it is the same as the TT then the cambelt needs to be removed, that means the crank pulley would need to come off. Not sure if the NA has a dampened one or not, might be really easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 ok got the metal hose off took all of 1hr (draining the water took most of that time). There was no gasket between the parts, I angled my camara in to take some snaps before proceding further. Could someone have a look and tell me if the o-ring is indeed the problem? It looks as if it is leaking from the left in this pic. Also here is the pic of the join between the water pump and the heater's steel tube. Also kinda balls'd up and snapped both the bolts off the thurmistat housing is it just a case of drilling out the old bolts and tapping new ones in? Cheers From a rather wet Dave Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Am I the only one that can't see Daston's pics? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 Can you see the links jake? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Havard Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Am I the only one that can't see Daston's pics? YES!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted January 14, 2007 Share Posted January 14, 2007 Can you see the links jake?They're working for me now. Dunno what was up there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 14, 2007 Author Share Posted January 14, 2007 so now the pics are there in all there glory anyone got any ideas??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 15, 2007 Author Share Posted January 15, 2007 Right been told that I am going to need to remove my water pump to sort out those sheered bolts and in that case might as well get a new pump. Anyone got a good step by step guide as the Toyota repair manual I got covers both the GE and GTE at the same time so is a little confusing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 18, 2007 Author Share Posted January 18, 2007 Ok thermostat is out and is ok and the rubber oring is still fresh and not brittle so that dosnt seem to be the problem. Any other things in that area to go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daston Posted January 20, 2007 Author Share Posted January 20, 2007 Ok whos a numpty?? New thermostat and oring in topped up water, no problems went for a spin. Had to stop outside toyota as I could smell coolant and my heater was not working so opened the bonet and the gasket on the heater water pipe by the pump had tottaly gone! so Pissin out water like its going out of fasion had to nurse the car home (only 5 min away) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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