silvershark44 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AepS3pBfxfY enjoy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garetheves Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Was reading a review of this in an old copy of Autocar yesterday, seems they arent going to put it into general production though, shame. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Higher Octane and we wouldn't have to import it. We have so many set-aside fields around where I live that are just doing nothing - I just don't understand why the government isn't trying to get this industry started faster. Maybe pressure from the oil companies. I'd perfer to buy home grown fuel that helps our economy and reduces Co2. Instead of funding the the foreign oil markets we could sell ours to them... Nice to know that the end of oil is not the end of internal combustion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted January 10, 2007 Author Share Posted January 10, 2007 Agreed, this way it could be produced in britain, helping our economy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 The amount of stuff which would need to be grown to produce the amount of fuel we use. I just cant see it personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike B Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 At least it would stop the farmers burning tyres out of bordem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Underworld Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I wonder what the bhp % increase is with this stuff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 More octane means more boost and ignition advance which would result in more power/torque, if you was setup to take advantage of it. Tesco 99ron uses a 5% mix to gain the extra octane if I remember correctly. There are some older threads on Bio fuel on here some where. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I can't see YouTube at work. What is it? An ethanol car or something? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 More octane means more boost and ignition advance which would result in more power/torque, if you was setup to take advantage of it. Tesco 99ron uses a 5% mix to gain the extra octane if I remember correctly. There are some older threads on Bio fuel on here some where. Yup, you are correct, all these new v-power and tesco fuels contain ethanol... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 I didnt think V-Power used Bio additives. I know Tesco do as their 99ron fuel is supplied by Greenergy :- http://www.greenergy.com/products/99_octane.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rob wild Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 That is a great idea as Tiff said more jobs in the UK, less dependancy on the middle east, better for the enviroment plus if they could mass produce it and make it cheaper then everybody could be a winner! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supra666 Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 shame it's a Lotus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supragold Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Fcuking Gouverment W**kers. Keep going on about being green and its only 2p a ltr cheaper yet has worse mpg so therefore costs more than normal petrol. Unbelievable. Quality car though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bakerboy Posted January 10, 2007 Share Posted January 10, 2007 Here we have a solution to high petrol prices and bad co2 emissions but the government is ignoring it, I feel a petition coming on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Garfy Posted January 11, 2007 Share Posted January 11, 2007 Here we have a solution to high petrol prices and bad co2 emissions but the government is ignoring it, I feel a petition coming on... Whats the point in a petition, the B*stards don't care what we think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I saw this at the Autoshow yesterday. Chatting with the Lotus engineer revealed that they have 6 injectors, the normal 4, although larger than stock and 2 additional mounted after the supercharger. They inject fuel into the inlet track which aids cooling given denser air. I asked what other mods they had and basically its a different fuel tank so it doesnt eat through it and a remap to suite the new fuel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I saw this at the Autoshow yesterday. Chatting with the Lotus engineer revealed that they have 6 injectors, the normal 4, although larger than stock and 2 additional mounted after the supercharger. They inject fuel into the inlet track which aids cooling given denser air. I asked what other mods they had and basically its a different fuel tank so it doesnt eat through it and a remap to suite the new fuel. The additonal injectors are pre supercharger - not after it. I think there have been some additional seal changes throughout the engine to counteract the corrosive affects of ethanol. Ethanol fuels burn cleaner and unlease more power than normal gasoline, but the total energy content is lower so you get lower MPG, which slightly offsets the advantage of the lower pump price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted January 15, 2007 Share Posted January 15, 2007 I was thinking about the lower MPG. OK you generate more power with ethanol, to get the same power from petrol would descrease the MPG also, correct? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted January 16, 2007 Share Posted January 16, 2007 Well, increasing the power on a gasoline engine will certainly reduce the MPG, but whether that would be down to the same figures as an ethanol car I have no idea. Pre compressor injection can be done with gasoline, too, and that apparently has some big benefits for performance and economy so I guess you'd have to compare like with like. The big driver for using bio-fuels is, of course, lower net CO2 production, though. I was at the Autosport show, too. I liked the way that anything that has any ethanol in it is now being labelled as a "green" fuel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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