Dale B Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Hi Guys, I posted the thread about the VVTi sometime ago (see next thread). Im close to buying a Supra now and have 3 in mind. The first is the VVTi, the secons is a jspec Kreg listed below... This car is a complete one-off and is a ready-made show car. I guarantee you wont see another one like it in this country. It is a 1993 K Twin Turbo Toyota Supra with only 45k genuine miles (BIMTA verified). I am the first user in this country. I have all the import documentation. The car has a full Japanese service history and recently had a full service along with a cambelt change and is fully converted to UK spec. There is very little wear on all tyres and brakes etc and the car is immaculate, there isn't a mark on it. It is taxed and MOT'd till 08/04. The car also has a fully comprehensive warranty on it till the middle of september which should be transferrable. This car has only been treated to all the very best equipment available for the Supra. It should currently be making 350-400 bhp on standard boost without using the boost control and is good for 0-60 in about 4.5 secs and over 180 mph top speed. The car is an auto with switchable manual controls and overdrive. Standard Supras in this kind of condition and this kind of mileage regularly fetch £15k. This one has over £20k worth of extras and I'm asking £16995 for it. Extras include: Full genuine TRD (Toyota Racing Development)Type-T wide-arch bodykit including lightweight TRD bonnet and TRD rear spoiler Full Brembo large brake conversion including calipers and cross-drilled discs 18" deep dish split-rim alloy wheels with Dunlop Potenza tyres - 295/35/18 at the back!!! Fully adjustable TEIN suspension all round HKS super drager exhaust system Apexi induction kit Alloy radiator and hosing Strut brace BLitz boost control HKS Turbo Timer TRD dials Extra HKS dials (boost gauge, oil temperature/pressure) in HKS housing in-dash above passenger glove-box Recaro front seats, leather rear seats OZ leather steering wheel Limited Edition Kenwood Z828 mp3 player stereo and 6-disc changer In-dash pop-out 6" monitor Multi-region dvd player Tinted rear windows Body-coloured headlight covers Cat 1 alarm/immobiliser Radar detector Alloy Pedals Ths last is a UKspec car..... Title :- Toyota Supra - 3.0ltr Twin Turbo UK Model - Registered 23--08-1995 ( N reg ) - Demo plus 1 owner from new - Only 32305 miles Features : Standard Fantastic Concourse condition One fastidious owner since 1996. 3.0ltr Twin Turbo. 4 Speed Switch able Automatic transmission 31866 Miles Full Toyota Service History 12 months MOT included in the sale. ABS Astral Black paint with Ivory / Tan Leather Interior - One of the best combinations. Traction Control - Switch able Cruise Control Active Front Spoiler 326BHP 325 IbFt Torque. 90% available from 2000rpm (Thanks god it has traction control) Limited Slip Differential HPI Gold Clear. Certificate Included in the Sale Standard 6 CD Auto-changer -With 6 speakers Electric Controlled Drivers Seat G Sensor - To modulate rear brakes, to combat lateral slippage in corners. F1 style double wishbone suspension front and rear. Tilt adjustable steering wheel Speed sensitive power steering Electric Windows Heated and electric wing mirrors Cruise Control Given the choice and that theyre all about the same money, which would be best to go for with regard to holding value and drivability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Standard Supra's with that kind of mileage don't go for anywhere near 15K. I would say that the second one is high priced. It does have a lot of mods listed, which will save you a mint if you planning on doing them anyway. Check for crash damage and other dodgy shenanigans like that:) I would go for the the UK one myself, it's very low mileage for a UK car. Given a free reign I would go a get a newer J-spec for the same money in standard trim. The VVTi ones are much harder to do engine mods with. Depends what mods you are looking doing. All just IMO of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supragal Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 perhaps get insurance quotes on both and see if that sways your decision? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian C Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Originally posted by Steve W2 The VVTi ones are much harder to do engine mods with. No they aren't Cams are a bastard to find but then they aren't "all that" with turbo tuning anyway, apart from that it's as 'easy' as a non-vvti. (sorry Steve, I'm not hunting you down I promise ) -Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 In order of my preferences 1. Get a VVTi if you are intending this to always have less than 700bhp... 2. Get the UK if insurance costs are important. 3. The K reg car is over priced and best left alone. But if it has all the mods you want then get it. But it will need more maintanence than the other 2 as its older. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albundy68 Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 the first one sounds dodgy as to me, if a j spec hadnt been run at high boost, why would it need a boost controller??? do you have a pic of it? if its got a TRD wide kit on then it will be V rare, less than 10 in the country i'd say. and if the second is £16K thats expensive, even for a low miles UK, you could get a low milage UK manu for £13-14 K easy if you keep scouring auto trader, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul -C- Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 First one has a wide arch bodykit with only 295's on? You can fit 285 on a standard body... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale B Posted June 2, 2004 Author Share Posted June 2, 2004 heres pics of the tuned jspec http://www.silent-troopers.co.uk/supra/sup1.jpg http://www.silent-troopers.co.uk/supra/sup2.jpg http://www.silent-troopers.co.uk/supra/sup3.jpg http://www.silent-troopers.co.uk/supra/sup4.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geoffvalenti Posted June 2, 2004 Share Posted June 2, 2004 Shame you're so far away up north because in South London there's a nice Dec '98 VVTi tiptronic car, 41000 miles, with UK brakes, Mania alloys, Nur Spec, FMIC, boost controller, Cat 1, all bills, that could probably be bought for around the same price. When I was looking it was about 2 grand more, but I think that they've realised that if they want to sell it they've got to be a bit more realistic with the price. On a short test drive it drove well, maybe worth a look. PM me if you want the number Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Gotta say, it does look tidy. But you can't really tell from photo's, got to get down there, see how it drives and what it looks like. Oh, and listen to Ian C and Alex over me when it comes to tuning as they know there stuff (apparently:D ). I was under the impression that they were harder to tune due to the extra electronic gizmo's they have, I stand corrected. Good luck with your search:) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 It does look tidy indeed - and its hard to not get sucked in by its looks (bar the headlight covers - yuk) Test drive all of them, and take a friendly Supra owner with you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
albundy68 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 i remember that wideboy being sold about a year ago, theres a thread about it somewhere... wonder why theyre selling it on so quick??? i'd deffo go for a later model supe if you have the money, its not just milage that effects the relyability of a car, its age as well, and how its been used, a 3 mile journey twice a day does alot more damage than a 30 mile one!!! Get as new a supe as you can afford then mod it yourself, pumping all your hard earned wages into personalising your supe is half the fun of owning one!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 The red TRD one has been on the trader for ages, it was imported through dealer last year and was priced for around 13.5k im guessing the private buyer bought it hoping to make a few k on it, doesnt seem to have worked yet though! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChrisB Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 personally i wouldnt buy a ready tuned one, i know it will save you money but i prefer to know things have been done properly i notice your in darlington, i have a uk one, sounds identical to the third one your desciribing, can meet up sometime and you can have a look and a chat, im not an expert but could point you in the general direction of what to look for Chris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve W2 Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Originally posted by albundy68 i'd deffo go for a later model supe if you have the money, its not just milage that effects the relyability of a car, its age as well, and how its been used, a 3 mile journey twice a day does alot more damage than a 30 mile one!!! How does that work then? I know a 3 mile journey isnt long enough to get the engine warmed and the oils at the correct viscocity, but that happens for the first 3 miles of your 30 mile journey anyway. The only differnece is you are probably driving an extra few mile on top of that before the engine has warmed up properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarkCynic Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Hi boneyard, why not have a look at my Supra - For sale in Bishop Auckland. I've only just put the website together prior to putting it on autotrader. Open to offers for a quick local sale. http://www.k55bye.co.uk I'll be putting it on the for sale section of this forum too, once i've figured out nochex for my membership. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 Two way twin turbos? Is that import law definite now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale B Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Originally posted by DarkCynic Hi boneyard, why not have a look at my Supra - For sale in Bishop Auckland. I've only just put the website together prior to putting it on autotrader. Open to offers for a quick local sale. http://www.k55bye.co.uk I'll be putting it on the for sale section of this forum too, once i've figured out nochex for my membership. Hi.. Darkcynic. Nice looking car, what sort of money u looking for?. Bearing in mind theres a 1999 VVTi on Autotrader for £14995. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dale B Posted June 3, 2004 Author Share Posted June 3, 2004 Originally posted by ChrisB personally i wouldnt buy a ready tuned one, i know it will save you money but i prefer to know things have been done properly i notice your in darlington, i have a uk one, sounds identical to the third one your desciribing, can meet up sometime and you can have a look and a chat, im not an expert but could point you in the general direction of what to look for Chris Thanks Chris, I might take you up on that meet. Ill PM you if and when :-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted June 3, 2004 Share Posted June 3, 2004 There is also 2 very similar cars on ebay at the mo. 1 a show car in red j-spec TT (not this car you have here) and another UK with low miles (the uk one might be the same car but its not getting near its 15k reserve) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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