JustGav Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 What is the advantage of Parallels over boot camp on an intel macbook? qaisar, I use boot camp (free) and use all the programs that I do on my xp pc, wireless networked and all the rest of it, no problems what so ever. If you want to get into the MAC side you do have to reboot but never found that an issue. With boot camp you have to swap between the systems and you can't run them concurrently (ooh big word for 20h00). With virtual machine software it allows you to run multiple machines at the same times, so you can swap between mac osx and windows or linux or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qaisar Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Im not really techie but i think i get it, thanks Thats why i was looking at at Parallels on a Mac, so i could swap between the two whenever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 20, 2006 Share Posted December 20, 2006 Im not really techie but i think i get it, thanks Thats why i was looking at at Parallels on a Mac, so i could swap between the two whenever. Depending on your current machine, you can have the opposite as well... It has been 'rumoured' that a modified version of MacOSX will run under VMWare Workstaiton on windows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nic Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 What is the advantage of Parallels over boot camp on an intel macbook? qaisar, I use boot camp (free) and use all the programs that I do on my xp pc, wireless networked and all the rest of it, no problems what so ever. If you want to get into the MAC side you do have to reboot but never found that an issue. Definitely get Parallels desktop, it is similar to the old virtual PC, ie. you can run both OS systems together. Where as VPC was very slow and clunky, Parallels is just as fast as your normal OS and operates seemlessly. Highly recommended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 With virtual machine software it allows you to run multiple machines at the same times, so you can swap between mac osx and windows or linux or whatever. Ta, will give me something to play with over crimbo now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Depending on your current machine, you can have the opposite as well... It has been 'rumoured' that a modified version of MacOSX will run under VMWare Workstaiton on windows. I did this 6/12 months ago. Too damn slow. Much better the otherway around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Mac's are the new cool thing to have apparently.... you can run OSX on a normal Intel PC now anyway... if you really wanted to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Mac's are the new cool thing to have apparently.... you can run OSX on a normal Intel PC now anyway... if you really wanted to. I did it about 5 months ago, and it did work with the exception of graphics acceleration (they call it... something, I forget), but there didn't seem much point. Running on my 20.1" widescreen Dell thingy, I basically had a big iMac. Whilst I like the ability to drop into a *nix shell, that OS isn't without it's own problems either. On the usability p.o.v I definately feel like there isn't good feedback from the mouse & keyboard. Kind of hard to explain but it's like there's a delay on input, just like with Linux. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian W Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 you can run OSX on a normal Intel PC now anyway... if you really wanted to. i believe Pete tried this on his PC and said it eventually ran but not very well. much easier to run windows on a Mac than the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 21, 2006 Author Share Posted December 21, 2006 I am following this with interest as I have always fancied a Mac, but with no serial port I am unlikely to spend the dough. Thanks for the info Pete, and everyone, will still follow this as I am learning a lot! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I did it about 5 months ago, and it did work with the exception of graphics acceleration I got Quake 3 running ok on mine with Geforce 5600 Whilst I like the ability to drop into a *nix shell, that OS isn't without it's own problems either.. BSD rocks!! What problems? Works fine on the hardware it's designed for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 i believe Pete tried this on his PC and said it eventually ran but not very well. much easier to run windows on a Mac than the other way around. Works like a dream now. Main problem was finding a decent board that was compatible Working for an IT firm meant I got to try out a few Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I am following this with interest as I have always fancied a Mac, but with no serial port I am unlikely to spend the dough. Thanks for the info Pete, and everyone, will still follow this as I am learning a lot! Just get a cheap (local) Sony like mine from eBay for that serial port stuff. I can set you up a dual boot Mac / PC if you want one for normal home use, but it's a good few hundred quid for quality parts. Talk about it Sat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I got Quake 3 running ok on mine with Geforce 5600 I don't think the problem is OpenGL, it's that funny-named stuff which accelerates the GUI so that the widgets are all smooth. Quartz. That's it. Quartz didn't work. BSD rocks!! What problems? Works fine on the hardware it's designed for. I thought it might sound like I meant the underyling *nix had it's problems, that's not what I meant. I meant the OSX GUI as a whole. The mouse feedback seems funny/slow, and things do go wrong, wierd program crashes every now and then. All I'm saying is that it's not perfect, which I don't think any OS is, but a lot of people think you only get problems with Windows and that Macs are perfect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I don't think the problem is OpenGL, it's that funny-named stuff which accelerates the GUI so that the widgets are all smooth. Quartz. That's it. Quartz didn't work. Hmmm. not noticed that. Any ideas how to test Quartz? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Hmmm. not noticed that. Any ideas how to test Quartz? I just did a quick google and its' Quartz Extreme that didn't work, but it's suggested that it can be made to work with the Intel GMA onboard graphics. I seem to remember 'About this Mac' giving details of whether Quartz Extreme was enabled or not. Perhaps I just didn't spend enough time, although I did try various cards by ATi and nVidia. I think you'd know if it was or wasn't working properly because the errrm widgets (the postit note, weather, time & date etc thingies that take over the screen when you hit a particular button) come into and out of the screen very slowly and jerkily. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I think you'd know if it was or wasn't working properly because the errrm widgets (the postit note, weather, time & date etc thingies that take over the screen when you hit a particular button) come into and out of the screen very slowly and jerkily. Smooth as a babies bottom. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Smooth as a babies bottom. Awesome. Then I guess you have a 100% fully functional Mac! I think there were also problems with a lot of the code requiring SSE3 which my older Pentium-4 didn't have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 Awesome. Then I guess you have a 100% fully functional Mac! I think there were also problems with a lot of the code requiring SSE3 which my older Pentium-4 didn't have. That'll do it. The SSE2 hacks are still flaky. I'm on Core2 Duo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carl0s Posted December 21, 2006 Share Posted December 21, 2006 I'm on Core2 Duo. Alright for some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 well worth a read http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/08/02/review_bootcamp_parallels_desktop/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 If you don't have SSE3, it is painful.. Itunes for instance will not work. If you SSE3 then it works very well and smoothly.. There are some other hardware requirements, but I've got it working nicely on an acer travelmate, wireless works as well, very functional but no itunes sadly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 22, 2006 Share Posted December 22, 2006 All I'm saying is that it's not perfect, which I don't think any OS is, but a lot of people think you only get problems with Windows and that Macs are perfect. I agree, nothing is perfect. I think mine has locked up twice since I've had it, around a year now. My mates iMac also did a couple of odd things, but on balance the Apple has been sooooooooooooo much more reliable, not to mention far nicer to use. Puts Windows to shame IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Definitely get Parallels desktop, it is similar to the old virtual PC, ie. you can run both OS systems together. Where as VPC was very slow and clunky, Parallels is just as fast as your normal OS and operates seemlessly. Highly recommended. New update dude - http://www.parallels.com/products/desktop/beta_testing/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewOW Posted February 17, 2007 Share Posted February 17, 2007 Its good to see a community of positive Mac users on here. Just out of general interest I'd like to know how many of us Supra owners are also Mac owners too. I wish I still had my MacBook Pro, but as 2 of them went off pop when I first got them I can only use the 'Cube' with OS9 at work now. Bummer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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