Suprasteve Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 someone please explain the difference between proof and alcohol by volume. for example why do spirits measure with proof but largers etc use alcohol by volume ? cheers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 % by volume X 2 = Proof. No idea why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprasteve Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 thats what i thought too but seems odd doesn't it? also would a 330ml bottle of larger at say 5% be more potent (get you pissed quicker) than a pint of larger at say 4.3% what im trying to work out is could you have more bottles than pints and end up with the same result. suppose there more to it than that too i.e. time taken to drink a bottle would be quicker than a pint etc.. therefore get through them quicker blah blah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_%28alcohol%29 It is an odd system which has no real place today. I don't believe UK trading standards allows you to state proof - or at very least will not allow you to solely give the ethanol assay as a proof value - also I think the Tax / Revenue / Customs people have a few words to say about this . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 thats what i thought too but seems odd doesn't it? also would a 330ml bottle of larger at say 5% be more potent (get you pissed quicker) than a pint of larger at say 4.3% what im trying to work out is could you have more bottles than pints and end up with the same result. suppose there more to it than that too i.e. time taken to drink a bottle would be quicker than a pint etc.. therefore get through them quicker blah blah Err lol - quick way to get pissed then? Many things have an effect on how quickly you get drunk. Alcoholic % volume is definitely a major contributor How "gassy" a drink is can effect the punch it has too - simply by aiding the drinks passage into the rest of your digestive system (I believe CO2 bubbles relax the pylorus) How much food you have eaten/is still laying around - this can have a diluting and also a hindering effect into getting the booze further into your system. Body weight and BMI have an effect of course. Mood! I think I was quoted the maximum effective concentration of alcohol in the stomach once (but can't remember what it is) - before the average persons chemoreceptors activate the emetic response (life saving reaction mostly ). You could work it out from base principles, if you wanna get shit faced - figure it out the units you are consuming, the more units you consume with lesser volume - the quicker you will get annihilated... simple maths Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprasteve Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Err lol - quick way to get pissed then? did it come accross like that lol ...or could it be my mates are very big drinkers and i'm shitting myself they'll drink me under the table lol so basically... -get fat (increase BMI) -eat lots of food to suck up alcohol -try not to get excited -drink flat low % bottles right i'm sorted now cheers bud (no pun intended) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rick001 Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 Err lol - quick way to get pissed then? Many things have an effect on how quickly you get drunk. Alcoholic % volume is definitely a major contributor How "gassy" a drink is can effect the punch it has too - simply by aiding the drinks passage into the rest of your digestive system (I believe CO2 bubbles relax the pylorus) How much food you have eaten/is still laying around - this can have a diluting and also a hindering effect into getting the booze further into your system. Body weight and BMI have an effect of course. Mood! I think I was quoted the maximum effective concentration of alcohol in the stomach once (but can't remember what it is) - before the average persons chemoreceptors activate the emetic response (life saving reaction mostly ). You could work it out from base principles, if you wanna get shit faced - figure it out the units you are consuming, the more units you consume with lesser volume - the quicker you will get annihilated... simple maths FFS mate - i need an effin drink after reading that - WTF is "Chemoreceptors", sounds like a fookin dinasaur!!! All i know is that after 6 bottles of Newky Brown im effin wasted heh heh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprasteve Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 FFS mate - i need an effin drink after reading that - WTF is "Chemoreceptors", sounds like a fookin dinasaur!!! All i know is that after 6 bottles of Newky Brown im effin wasted heh heh must admit there were some long words in there... like me, most of you guys are probably sitting at work twiddling your thumbs and chatting about past drinking storys with your collegues. This all started when i told the story of getting completely wAnkered whilst on holiday in tunisia, i think i only had 5 bottles of "Elephant Beer", so i looked it up on the net and its 7.2% Like a saddo i then searched for the worlds strongest beer... http://216.239.59.104/search?q=cache:k5CXpppxH1UJ:www.realbeer.com/library/beerbreak/archives/beerbreak20020214.php+strongest+beer+%25&hl=en&gl=uk&ct=clnk&cd=1 hense the conversation went onto proof vs %... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 FFS mate - i need an effin drink after reading that - WTF is "Chemoreceptors", sounds like a fookin dinasaur!!! All i know is that after 6 bottles of Newky Brown im effin wasted heh heh just some specialised cells that sit in your stomach and send messages to the various bits of your nervous system telling you to puke the poison out of yer guts (The bits that make you *feel* nauseous sometimes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprasteve Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 (The bits that make you *feel* nauseous sometimes). i hate those little bastards ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 did it come accross like that lol ...or could it be my mates are very big drinkers and i'm shitting myself they'll drink me under the table lol so basically... -get fat (increase BMI) -eat lots of food to suck up alcohol -try not to get excited -drink flat low % bottles right i'm sorted now cheers bud (no pun intended) lol. Ahh so surviving a day/night out with drinkers. Only piece of advice is pace yourself and eat well (if you are buying the round, buy a shandy and hope nobody notices, at least you get one pint *off* then ). And the get excited bit - well - getting excited (in a happy good way) can be beneficial in shrugging off the downer effect of booze and can enhance the euphoric side. A bleak mood will sometimes enhance the downer effects (make you sleepy. slur speech - fall over - lose consciousness etc ). There is a biological reason behind it (if you are interested check out reticular activating system), but think that will be beyond the scope of this conversation :d Nice find on the beer btw, don't down too many of those I think the worst case for me has been drinking little bottles of Duvel (I think that was the spelling) in Holland - thinking they were just little standard beers.... 6 bottles later and I was finding I was having a nice conversation with he carpet! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 If you want to get them pissed, buy vodka. Before you will start drinking vodka, drink some fat cream - more fat in it - better (400 ml should be enough) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbourner Posted December 19, 2006 Share Posted December 19, 2006 I always thought you got drunk quicker and harsher on beer than spirits because the spirit is more concentrated 'poison' so your body stores it without letting into the blood, whereas the beer is watered down and the body lets it straight through. But now you're talking about chemoreceptors and pylorus and how bubbles help absorption, and my idea suddenly seems very weak and un-scientific. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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