Inferno Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Hey hey, I have been researching suspension mods, but some things are still unclear to me, so I was hoping some people who know their suspension could help me out. Basically, I want to lower the Supra a bit to get rid of the ugly wheel-arch gap. I will not be track racing the car, so that may influence your recommendations. I do care about straight line traction and ride softness - these are the 2 most important things for me. I have seen that many coilovers have "height adjustment" as well as "ride height drop" in their specifications. Does this mean that by "default", they will drop the car a certain amount (the "ride height drop"), but that they can be set to raise the car higher than this or lower than this (the "height adjustment" ranges)? Also, if they are height adjustable, is this something that can easily be changed (i.e. within seconds) or requires a bit of work? (I am thinking electronic height control - probably unrealistic). Also, many have "damping force adjustment" as a feature. Does this mean that within reason, I can set the suspension to give me as soft a ride or as harsh a ride as I want? (within the given ranges of course). So basically, these are the things that I care about: 1.) As smooth a ride as possible (stock-like) 2.) Stock-like straight line traction 3.) Lower about an inch Based on the above, should I be looking at a soft coilover setup like Tein Comfort Sport, or just get some lowering springs with stock like spring rates (e.g. RSR Down, RSR Ti2000, Tanabe GF210 etc)? Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ric Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Yellow bilsteins with eibach springs are a popular choice, probably lowers around 30-35mm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mas Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 bilsteins and eibach is a good set up but you need an adjustable set TBH incase you have problems like rubbing, etc. I gave away my bilsteins and got some SS Teins and I can lower and raise the car anytime I want Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Opted for Tein Super Streets myself witht he EDFC option... seems to be good so far Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Chris Wilson offers an excellent suspension setup for road use, you can find his details with a search. Best to give him a call to discuss. I've had his setup on my car for a number of years and can't fault it. The link in my sig shows the ride height. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 bilsteins and eibach is a good set up but you need an adjustable set TBH incase you have problems like rubbing, etc. I gave away my bilsteins and got some SS Teins and I can lower and raise the car anytime I want When you say anytime you want, how easy/quick is this to do? What is involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 Chris Wilson offers an excellent suspension setup for road use, you can find his details with a search. Best to give him a call to discuss. I've had his setup on my car for a number of years and can't fault it. The link in my sig shows the ride height. Almost all the jap stuff is designed for their super smooth roads - i.e totally unsuitable for use in the UK. Almost all of the worse Supra's I've drive have had expensive adjustable suspension (Tein super streets, HKS somethings and RSR). They're far roo hard, crashy and have terrible rebound. Day to day the stock UK spec is lovely, but I really like the Bilstein/Eibach combo. When I have the money for suspension changes then CW setup will be the one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 I'm in Australia, so having C.W. help out is pretty much out of the picture. Thanks for the recommendations so far though, keep em coming! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I'm in Australia, so having C.W. help out is pretty much out of the picture. Thanks for the recommendations so far though, keep em coming! I missed that, sorry I'm sure he could supply a kit, but he uses his own geometry settings and I don't know if that's info he gives out. You won't have any issues with rubbing unless you lower the car too much, or have incorrect sized/offset wheels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Wilson Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 For traction you really need a soft rear set up. If you stay soft and lower the car the thing will go onto its rear bump stops due to weight transfer under hard acceleration, the wheel rate will then go through the roof, and you will immediately and suddenly lose traction. Same in high roll under hard corneringYou need to stay hih and soft and forget the wheel arch gap! If you go low and stiff you will lose all ride comfort, and the kineatics of the suspension wil go to pot with excess roll due to roll centre migration through the lowering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I've got Bilsteins and Eibachs mate. Personally, I do think they are far too low and the ride far too harsh. Looks nice, doesn't particularly drive well though. I'll be paying visit to the above man hopefully in April for a new 'comfortable, yet tight' setup. Good luck. SS Teains do seem pretty good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted December 18, 2006 Author Share Posted December 18, 2006 Nick: Thanks for that, my wheels have pretty much spot-on width and offset so rubbing shouldn't be a problem. Chris: That sounds pretty bad... is this still the case even if I am only slightly lowering the car? (1 inch perhaps) or is what you are describing (loss of traction) when people slam the car right to the ground? What effect on traction would low and stiff have? Thanks again everyone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted December 18, 2006 Share Posted December 18, 2006 I have Koni adjustables and Eibachs hard on the front and soft on the rear, cannot fault. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inferno Posted December 19, 2006 Author Share Posted December 19, 2006 Sounds good - how does it feel compared to stock? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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