DaveK Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 one night stands vs prostitution - should be a subject of another poll What's the difference though? Assume for a second prostitution was legal. Scenario A) : Girl goes out, meets a bloke for the first time, has sex with him that night, never sees him again. Scenario B) : Girl goes out, meets bloke, he pays her £50, has sex with him, never sees him again. There is no emotion in either case, no love - just lust. What's the difference? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ewen Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 For the more "elite" type of prostitute as you mentioned earlier...I am still struggling to understand how legalising it will actually help her. If anything, she will be paying 40% tax on her earnings and will voluntarily go underground.... She will only pay 40% on earnings above the £30 odd k threshold. Paying whatever tax is arguably better than having most of your earnings stolen from you by your pimp. Which brings me onto the main reason why legalisation (which I agree with) wont work....organised crime. Wether it be Knightsbridge high end or Scarby scabbers, there will probably be a king of the patch. Even if these women wanted to be legal and independant, would the low-life pimps let them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustGav Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 morals in society are at an all time low and this is just another example of society accepting the moral low ground. Question... Were one night stands, sex outside of marraige, drug abuse, prostitution, crime, respect for elders, crime in general etc. etc. COMMON practise 40-50 years ago? In the past... One night stands? Oh hell yeah they happened... Sex outside of marriage? Of course it did Drug abuse? Yup, opium addication was common way back.. Crime? Yeah... Nothing has changed, things have just become more common because the gap between have's and haven'ts gets bigger. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 What's the difference though? Assume for a second prostitution was legal. Scenario A) : Girl goes out, meets a bloke for the first time, has sex with him that night, never sees him again. Scenario B) : Girl goes out, meets bloke, he pays her £50, has sex with him, never sees him again. There is no emotion in either case, no love - just lust. What's the difference? one is mutual lust for animal Sex the 2nd is a one sided lust for animal sex while the other is lust for a gucci handbag Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 In the past... One night stands? Oh hell yeah they happened... Sex outside of marriage? Of course it did Drug abuse? Yup, opium addication was common way back.. Crime? Yeah... Nothing has changed, things have just become more common because the gap between have's and haven'ts gets bigger. I wouldnt know as I am in my twenties....you sound like youve lived through that era....you dinosaur... regarding your final comment.....isn't capitalism great? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 As a registered manwhore I'd love to see the trade legalised, I'm tired of standing in dark industrial estates waiting for passing business I'm not hooked on heroin or anything but I have a Supra habit. Could you not wear that big belt buckle next time, it catches the hairs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookoocachu Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I think that we should have Brothel type places. Places where working girls can go about their business in a safe enviorment. Prostitution is the oldest job in history and whether its illeagal or not people will allways do it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 According to studies, 95% of British hookers have a hard drug habit. Personally I'd say forget about legalising prostitution and concentrate on that first. What good is legalising it if the underlying problem of herion and crack is still there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 According to studies, 95% of British hookers have a hard drug habit. Personally I'd say forget about legalising prostitution and concentrate on that first. What good is legalising it if the underlying problem of herion and crack is still there? Exactly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
merckx Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I wouldn't say drug addiction is the underlying problem , most of these people come from broken homes, don't have a job and have no prospect of getting one, no place to live etc. That's when they resort to drug taking. If you have controlled brothels that are legal then you can get the prostitutes together all in one place , with a roof over their head. Experienced people can then focus on their problems and drug addiction. Much more difficult the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kookoocachu Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I wouldn't say drug addiction is the underlying problem , most of these people come from broken homes, don't have a job and have no prospect of getting one, no place to live etc. That's when they resort to drug taking. If you have controlled brothels that are legal then you can get the prostitutes together all in one place , with a roof over their head. Experienced people can then focus on their problems and drug addiction. Much more difficult the other way around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scoboblio Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 A good point, but would an organised legal brothel ever hire a girl who looked like a right mess because of drugs? Also having seen a friend's sister become a herion addict despite being part of a well-off middle class family has taught me that drugs can ruin anyone's life, not just the people who already have nothing. I completely agree that these girls need to be taken off the street and given help, but I don't think that putting them in a brothel would make it better - the problem would simply move there with them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
garethr Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Could I just point out that prostitution is not illegal? That is, it is not against the law for a woman (or man) to accept money in return for sexual services. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Could I just point out that prostitution is not illegal? That is, it is not against the law for a woman (or man) to accept money in return for sexual services. I was just scanning this thread to see if someone had posted the bleeding obvious. Class A drugs (and meth) are the actual problem- prostitution is a by product. Addicts can't afford theiir habits, so women go into prostituion, men go into burglary (look at the stats- women burglers are less common that a rhd 6 spd aerotop). If the Yanks had let us carpet bomb Afganistan with Napalm last year when we were about to do it, maybe these murders wouldn't have happened anyway (90% of UK herion is from material grown in Afganistan). Women don't choose prostitution, drugs chooses it for them (aside from people traffickers). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Agree Gaz - point about drugs has been mentioned before. Legalising prostitution wont address that now will it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Agree Gaz - point about drugs has been mentioned before. Legalising prostitution wont address that now will it. Prostitution *IS* legal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 If brothels would be accepted and prostitution considered as a "job" or way to gain money - brothels would select their employees more carefully. If they would not accept drug addicts, only clean girls (no drugs, no veneral diseases) - druggies would have to dissapear somehow from streets - overdose and die, quit taking drugs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Prostitution *IS* legal. Yes it is... and here However brothels are NOT legal, right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 If brothels would be accepted and prostitution considered as a "job" or way to gain money - brothels would select their employees more carefully. If they would not accept drug addicts, only clean girls (no drugs, no veneral diseases) - druggies would have to dissapear somehow from streets - overdose and die, quit taking drugs? Why would a clean girl with no drugs want to sell herself for sex? I think a lot of people are looking at this from the wron way round- no-one wants to be a sex slave through choice, ever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 Why would a clean girl with no drugs want to sell herself for sex? I think a lot of people are looking at this from the wron way round- no-one wants to be a sex slave through choice, ever. According to our mate Pheonix, some do it cause they dont want a 9-5 job yet still want that jimmy choo shoes or the loui vitton hangbag.... Crazy isnt it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 According to our mate Pheonix, some do it cause they dont want a 9-5 job yet still want that jimmy choo shoes or the loui vitton hangbag.... Crazy isnt it. ...and the ratio of £3000 a night escorts to £20 a shag crackwhores are... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveK Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Why would a clean girl with no drugs want to sell herself for sex? I think a lot of people are looking at this from the wron way round- no-one wants to be a sex slave through choice, ever. ...and the ratio of £3000 a night escorts to £20 a shag crackwhores are... I think you answered your own question. Although I agree the majority of prostitutes are the £20 crack whores, money talks. If it was legal - and if it paid significantly more than being a tesco checkout girl etc. then some girls would do it. The amount might differ from person to person - but everybody has their price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 17, 2006 Author Share Posted December 17, 2006 ...and the ratio of £3000 a night escorts to £20 a shag crackwhores are... my point exactly....glad you read the thread Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazboy Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 I think you answered your own question. Although I agree the majority of prostitutes are the £20 crack whores, money talks. If it was legal - and if it paid significantly more than being a tesco checkout girl etc. then some girls would do it. The amount might differ from person to person - but everybody has their price. The beauty of a rhetorical question lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Konrad Posted December 17, 2006 Share Posted December 17, 2006 Why would a clean girl with no drugs want to sell herself for sex? Money, that's why - if there is people willing to pay around 150pounds/hour of sex, there will be girl who will sell herself for such. I belive, there would be quite a few ppl around, who would pay that money for good sex with clean, safe girl. Mind you, more and more students getting money this way and be sure it is not for crack, hell, they even gaining like 2k/weekend so why not? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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