markjodrell Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 A couple of questions , ( TT auto ) :search: I have been told by a guy who fits super chips that it will give around 36 bhp extra on a pretty much std car. The questions :- 1) would that be correct ? 2) would it make a noticable difference 3) What do you class as a BPU , in the normal way, first steps. My car has std induction with a three quarter ss exhaust , both cats in place. Any comments appreciated:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Put the chip with some fish and lightly salt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 You cannot 'chip' the supra ECU. Most likely he'll fit a bleed valve (a £5 part). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gzaerojon Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 surely if a "chip" was able to be fitted, it would then need mapping something you can't do with a stock ECU edit: too slow Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 BPU would consist of the following: 1) Double decat 2) aftermaket cat-back exhaust 3) Fuel cut defencer 4) Walbro pump 5) colder plugs 6) restrictor ring Plus a boost gauge and ideally AFR gauge to keep a check on things. If you're UK spec then a boost controller too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Put the chip with some fish and lightly salt the guy in question said the original cannot be mapped with a pc like many modern cars but there is a replaccement chip available which has been pre mapped, he seems a decent enough bloke who has an alarm / car elec business:search: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DamanC Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 1) would that be correct ? - Nope 2) would it make a noticable difference - Nope 3) What do you class as a BPU , in the normal way, first steps. - Nope 4) He's a cock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 You cannot 'chip' the supra ECU. Most likely he'll fit a bleed valve (a £5 part). I think youll find you can Speak to Superchips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 BPU would consist of the following: 1) Double decat 2) aftermaket cat-back exhaust 3) Fuel cut defencer 4) Walbro pump 5) colder plugs 6) restrictor ring Plus a boost gauge and ideally AFR gauge to keep a check on things. If you're UK spec then a boost controller too. what extra bhp approx would that give. What is a cat-back exhaust exactly?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Approx 400 on a good engine 380 on an older one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 Approx 400 on a good engine 380 on an older one. how much approx would it cost to have this done and would you loose much/any reliability What is a cat-back exhaust exactly?? Can I assume you remove original cats and the replacment exhaust has a cat in the back box ???? Would original cats have to be put back on for mot ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lucifer Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 We charge £1300 fitted and reliability on teh Supras is never usually an issue at all, but some cars are dogs and should have 280BHP let alone 400! Yes cat back is from the Cat back! and yes you can simply put the second cat back in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted December 15, 2006 Author Share Posted December 15, 2006 thanks for the info, will have to see how things pan out after Christmas:eyebrows: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 thanks for the info, will have to see how things pan out after Christmas:eyebrows: Just go full BPU you will love it, transforms the car!! a chip will do nothing for power, leave them for the saxo boys;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 Just go full BPU you will love it, transforms the car!! a chip will do nothing for power, leave them for the saxo boys;) Its all money money money, starts with a guage then a bov then a body kit then the ice ,headlights,induction etc etc. It would probably be less hassel to thake the "purist" stance and stay standard.......apart from maybe ;) ;) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 You cannot 'chip' the supra ECU. Most likely he'll fit a bleed valve (a £5 part).Agreed. I think youll find you can I sincerely doubt it. More info please. Just a ";)" isn't very helpful really. Can you elaborate? Speak to Superchips.Why? Are they still selling a 'SuperChip' which is just an expensive FCD and bleed valve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Its all money money money, starts with a guage then a bov then a body kit then the ice ,headlights,induction etc etc. It would probably be less hassel to thake the "purist" stance and stay standard.......apart from maybe ;) ;) If I were you and money is tight I would leave the body standard for now....not many folk have a standard looking car nowadays they all opt for different skirts, bumpers etc me included, I wish I had stuck to a stock looking car now will prob go back one day, check Damon C garage for a classic example of how a few careful mods can tranform the car! If the car is completely stock, I would opt for a extensive service first followed by essentials, Boost gauge a must and also and EGT wouldn't go a miss the second cat can go with out the need for a FCD which is how mine is now and is plenty fast enough at 1bar have hit fuel cut twice but only in really cold weather but nout to much to worry about just annoying more than anything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 the guy in question said the original cannot be mapped with a pc like many modern cars but there is a replaccement chip available which has been pre mapped, he seems a decent enough bloke who has an alarm / car elec business:search: does he knows his arse from his elbow though? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeyb10supra Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 does he knows his arse from his elbow though? True, there are few tuners out there I would trust with a Supra, for most things supra this board is a very good start, things have been tried, tested and failed on this board many times before so its a good starting point imo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imi Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 True, there are few tuners out there I would trust with a Supra, Agree..and the rating system on here is not to be sneezed at..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Agreed. I sincerely doubt it. More info please. Just a ";)" isn't very helpful really. Can you elaborate? Why? Are they still selling a 'SuperChip' which is just an expensive FCD and bleed valve? You can solder in a pre chipped piggy back sort of thing within the ECU, you aren't really remapping the ECU as such. Its just a piggy back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 You can solder in a pre chipped piggy back sort of thing within the ECU, you aren't really remapping the ECU as such. Its just a piggy back. Not that I've ever heard of for the supra (unless you're talking about the likes of the Mines ECU). It'll be an FCD wired into the loom and a bleed valve. Total cost about £100. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdtime Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Not that I've ever heard of for the supra (unless you're talking about the likes of the Mines ECU). It'll be an FCD wired into the loom and a bleed valve. Total cost about £100. You may not have heard one for the supra but it can be done. E.g, A friend of mine with an SX14A had triple 5 Injectors dropped in, the guy who carrried out the work also soldered in a chip within the ECU to manage the injectors. I'm not saying you can do the above for BPU etc, but the car can be chipped as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seb Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 Agreed. I sincerely doubt it. More info please. Just a ";)" isn't very helpful really. Can you elaborate? Why? Are they still selling a 'SuperChip' which is just an expensive FCD and bleed valve? Um, I think he was being sarcastic... unless you were also being sarcastic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markjodrell Posted December 16, 2006 Author Share Posted December 16, 2006 does he knows his arse from his elbow though? who knows , whos the expert, everybody has different views opinions, it would be nice to meet a true guru, someone whos built an engine up from scratch and knows all the ins and outs. I have been to local "specialists" and have come away feeling , lets say, less than confident in there knowledge of pretty basic components (std) under the bonnet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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