Guest Geneb Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 And no this aint the usual Ebay blower http://www.boosthead.com/product.php?id=18 interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt _Aero top_ Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Do ya think these really work ? And for that type of cash couldn't you buy a NA-T kit ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 needs to be fitted proffesionally and can only be used in 15 sec burns till battery power runs out .still better than nos and only 8-900 quid for 95+ bhp gains Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 have a read of this http://www.horsepowerfreaks.com/price/Toyota/Supra_93-98/HorsepowerFreaks/Turbos/Turbo_Kits/part/NA-T_Stage_One_350-450rwhp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geneb Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 interesting read but who can fit that kinda stuff? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ivan Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Thomas Knight used to have a bad reputation for the crap turbos he used to sell. So he switched to superchargers instead. Hopefully the quality nowadays is better... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagman Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 OH dear!! 1/when not in use you are carrying around the extra weight of compressor motor and batteries 2/the compressor is a centrifugal compressor these require very fast rotational speeds to provide boost -leading to 3/ a motor capable of both high start torque and high speeds(a compound motor) DC as its battery driven ,so as low voltage it must have high ampereage (power = voltsxamps) this leads to massive heat losses and the motor must be huge 4/ the batteries must also be huge/heavy to supply the large power requirement,as must the cables 5/ is this charger to be in line with the current intake ?,ie the intake air passes through the charger when it is not being spun up this just makes it an obstruction to air flow when not in use,reducing power!!! 6/ if it is fitted in parallel to the standard air intake as an "extra"intake source then a check valve must be fitted to stop the charged air simply blowing out the intake,how is that to be controlled? 7/ what happens to the excess boosted air (should it actually work) when you come off the throttle and the charger is still running? 8/they quote over 450 cfm air flow,(good for about 300 bhp),how did they get this figure? was it flowing air into a restriction ie an engine or free flow to atmosphere? boost pressure takes energy and a lot of it, 40-60 bhp off the crank is not unusual for a charger,imagine an electric motor/battery that can produce 60bhp!! 9/I guess this brilliant idea was beyond the the thinking of the motor industry for over 100 years 10/ Ive got some AAA batteries strapped to a hair drier,good for 50 bhp,as tested by the automobile association of Cambodia,yours for the bargain price of £99.99,buy now before the xmas rush!!! it also improves mileage by 40% ,it is aslo eco friendly being made by a small indian tribe in south america--- website under construction www. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geneb Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 OH dear!! 1/when not in use you are carrying around the extra weight of compressor motor and batteries 2/the compressor is a centrifugal compressor these require very fast rotational speeds to provide boost -leading to 3/ a motor capable of both high start torque and high speeds(a compound motor) DC as its battery driven ,so as low voltage it must have high ampereage (power = voltsxamps) this leads to massive heat losses and the motor must be huge 4/ the batteries must also be huge/heavy to supply the large power requirement,as must the cables 5/ is this charger to be in line with the current intake ?,ie the intake air passes through the charger when it is not being spun up this just makes it an obstruction to air flow when not in use,reducing power!!! 6/ if it is fitted in parallel to the standard air intake as an "extra"intake source then a check valve must be fitted to stop the charged air simply blowing out the intake,how is that to be controlled? 7/ what happens to the excess boosted air (should it actually work) when you come off the throttle and the charger is still running? 8/they quote over 450 cfm air flow,(good for about 300 bhp),how did they get this figure? was it flowing air into a restriction ie an engine or free flow to atmosphere? boost pressure takes energy and a lot of it, 40-60 bhp off the crank is not unusual for a charger,imagine an electric motor/battery that can produce 60bhp!! 9/I guess this brilliant idea was beyond the the thinking of the motor industry for over 100 years 10/ Ive got some AAA batteries strapped to a hair drier,good for 50 bhp,as tested by the automobile association of Cambodia,yours for the bargain price of £99.99,buy now before the xmas rush!!! it also improves mileage by 40% ,it is aslo eco friendly being made by a small indian tribe in south america--- website under construction www. LOL:d so what ur saying is u dont think it will work? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Can you connect up two in parallel, or even sequential? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
silvershark44 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 Doesnt look too good to me. I would rather have NOS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Max Headroom Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 I think I will stick to my pitifully slow NA, (according to the TT boys that is) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
squiffy Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 i was speaking to the car cleaner at work who has an n/a and he seemed to think he has found a proper kit for a decent price done by jackson racing apparently. i will try and find out more when i see him next Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 these things all seem to good to be true and 99.9% of the time they are shite .thanks for the tech info JAGMAN its always best to ask before you jump in . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 interesting read but who can fit that kinda stuff? i think this is similar to the kit that turbofit do .dont quote me though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve0 Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 if fitted would it be like mad maxs car Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Geneb Posted December 15, 2006 Share Posted December 15, 2006 nah it would be like Noddys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted December 16, 2006 Share Posted December 16, 2006 OH dear!! 1/when not in use you are carrying around the extra weight of compressor motor and batteries 2/the compressor is a centrifugal compressor these require very fast rotational speeds to provide boost -leading to 3/ a motor capable of both high start torque and high speeds(a compound motor) DC as its battery driven ,so as low voltage it must have high ampereage (power = voltsxamps) this leads to massive heat losses and the motor must be huge 4/ the batteries must also be huge/heavy to supply the large power requirement,as must the cables 5/ is this charger to be in line with the current intake ?,ie the intake air passes through the charger when it is not being spun up this just makes it an obstruction to air flow when not in use,reducing power!!! 6/ if it is fitted in parallel to the standard air intake as an "extra"intake source then a check valve must be fitted to stop the charged air simply blowing out the intake,how is that to be controlled? 7/ what happens to the excess boosted air (should it actually work) when you come off the throttle and the charger is still running? 8/they quote over 450 cfm air flow,(good for about 300 bhp),how did they get this figure? was it flowing air into a restriction ie an engine or free flow to atmosphere? boost pressure takes energy and a lot of it, 40-60 bhp off the crank is not unusual for a charger,imagine an electric motor/battery that can produce 60bhp!! 9/I guess this brilliant idea was beyond the the thinking of the motor industry for over 100 years 10/ Ive got some AAA batteries strapped to a hair drier,good for 50 bhp,as tested by the automobile association of Cambodia,yours for the bargain price of £99.99,buy now before the xmas rush!!! it also improves mileage by 40% ,it is aslo eco friendly being made by a small indian tribe in south america--- website under construction www. On the other hand the Visteon VTES is an electric supercharger that does do what it says on the tin. Its a complete module, though, with all the control electronics built in so its not exactly a bolt-on goodie. Looks like these guys have had a bash at copying it. Click ...and click Unfortunately it seems to have been all but overlooked in favour of "mild hybrid" technology (electric motor torque assist for launch and acceleration). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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