michael Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 FWIW If the sig contains a member of the existing club traders, I can't see a problem. Advertising of non payed up traders should not be allowed. But perhaps these traders can offer something something our own can't, maybe they are even better... someone needs to let the precious members know this, erect the flashing lights, adorn the message with smilies, add bold, increase text size, quickly!!! Or maybe they could just start a thread about this whizz-bang company and allow people to have read, this isn't tumbleweed, we are allowed to discuss such things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 And another absolute floppy penis of a reply from you. Aww bless. I remember when I was back at school many years ago and when all else failed with a comeback the good old 'penis' lines were used. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I see your point Michael, but the traders on here have paid for the right to advertise. Agree there may be a lot better else where who either don't want to or more likely don't need to rely on a captive customer base. The fanboi advertising in sigs is a waste of time in MHO as most never read them or like me have the dam things turned off in options Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 http://z001.ig.com.br/ig/37/31/170335/blig/ocamaradadascasasbahia/imagens/who_fucking_cares.jpg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 Michael, Half of me thinks you are on a wind-up, half of me thinks I should reply seriously. I carry a mkivstore sig because I asked to. Martin has been particularly helpful (especially when my RLTC install was ballsed by another trader). He has also done me some very good prices for parts I have purchased (and yes I did ring round, not blindly pay up) and I thought it'd be nice, in some small way, to repay some of that goodness. Yes, I am aware too that Martin (along with all the other traders) is out to make money and that I, perhaps, shouldn't be repaying these 'favours' but I choose to. Oh, and I'm getting a free autobox too so..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I put Envy in my sig because they've always gone out of their way to help me out and have been more than helpful since i joined the Supra ranks. They've done me many favours (for which they didn't make ANY money) and the only real way i can show any gratitude is to advertise their services in my sig. It's called being grateful, if you don't like it then tough shit Arnout's building my current car, he's doing a very good job hence the advertisement of his supra website. Should i remove the link to my Hillsbrough campaign too?! Some people have got nothing better to do.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveR Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I put Envy in my sig because they've always gone out of their way to help me out and have been more than helpful since i joined the Supra ranks. They've done me many favours (for which they didn't make ANY money) and the only real way i can show any gratitude is to advertise their services in my sig. It's called being grateful, if you don't like it then tough shit Arnout's building my current car, he's doing a very good job hence the advertisement of his supra website. Should i remove the link to my Hillsbrough campaign too?! Some people have got nothing better to do.... I don't see what the fuss is anyway. It's stupid kicking off about what people are & aren't allowed in their signatures; we're allowed to say what we like in posts but not in our signatures? What?!? Does it affect the purchasing choices of the aggrieved? Does it affect anyone in any way, at all, ever?? Shut up then lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 13, 2006 Author Share Posted December 13, 2006 You people continue to amaze and amuse, thanks for your time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I guess it gives some people a sense of belonging when they can latch onto the trader of the moment Or in my case I just want to give a little back for the excellent service and attention to detail that Chris gives my car. Chris doesn't blow his own trumpet, advertise madly or much kind of marketing at all. It's through individuals recommendation and clubs like this that he has gained his deserved excellent reputation. I'm keeping my sig how it is, if you don't like it then you can I know you're only posting this shit because you're bored anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 People who wish to advertise traders in their sigs should be asked to pay a reduced traders fee. Discuss... Jesus some of you need to chill out, life is too short to get wound up about a string of text on a forum. All Michael asked was the topic was discussed. If you can't add anything intelligent get back in the pond. If all traders were of the same quality it would not be such an issue. I would not let some of the traders mentioned in sigs touch a roller-skate let alone a car. They are doing things that are unnecessary, and some that in the longer term are damaging to cars. But hey what do I care it is not my money you are passing over gleefully to someone who tells you every thing is fine when clearly it is not. But for the benefit of new members who may be suckered in by a disproportionate number of fanboi sigs, I don't think there should be any traders mentioned on sigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 But for the benefit of new members who may be suckered in by a disproportionate number of fanboi sigs, I don't think there should be any traders mentioned on sigs. You do have a good point there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopite Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I would not let some of the traders mentioned in sigs touch a roller-skate let alone a car. They are doing things that are unnecessary, and some that in the longer term are damaging to cars. If that's the case then surely they shouldn't be allowed to trade on here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CardiffSupra Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 It can do nothing but good tbh. I'v found a lot of peoples sigs very helpfull. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted December 13, 2006 Share Posted December 13, 2006 I put me in my sig because I got fed up typing my details! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 If that's the case then surely they shouldn't be allowed to trade on here? Oh you are so right they should not. Hmmm I wonder why they are still trading................... ............... Fanbois, who know sweet FA about the complexities of highly tuned turbo cars. Don't you just love trader renewals. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terminator Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I put me in my sig because I got fed up typing my details! Traders mentioning them selves in there own sig being the exception. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 There will always be cowboys, and there will always be fanbois. The problem is when things go wrong I suspect most will just keep quiet scared of making a fuss, so the traders in question will keep on trading. The market for Supra's has changed a lot over the years. Seems to me it's more about bolt on 'bling' than anything else now, and many people would rather spend money on bolt/stick on crap, rather than a proper service. I don't really read sigs anyway, and greet all recommendations for traders with extreme skepticism. It can be a very precarious and expensive business, modifying cars. I've learned by my mistakes. I really don't care if people advertise traders in their sigs. If you ban it though, then are you going to ban people recommending tuners/traders when someone asks in a thread? Bit of a grey area... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael Posted December 14, 2006 Author Share Posted December 14, 2006 I don't want anything banned, I just wondered if people felt that the people advertising companies in their sigs should be asked to pay a reduced traders fee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mawby Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I carry a mkivstore sig because I asked to.My informants have been telling me that discounts have been offered for signature references so you missed out if you actually asked to advertise a trader in your signature. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdavies Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 I just wondered if people felt that the people advertising companies in their sigs should be asked to pay a reduced traders fee. Possibly not, as in most cases the individual adding the signature advert/"big-up" hasn't been asked to do it, are not affiliated with the trader/company and as such don't make any money from the ads? If they are affiliated with the company/trader, and/or the trader/company are not paid up traders/members here, then there is in my mind scope for charging, or insisting the ad be removed - as it costs our own traders to advertise here this would be unfair. That being said though, as mentioned above, you don't need to be a paid up trader on these boards for someone to start a thread saying how wonderful company/trader(x) is, but that leaves the thread open for debate and people can post their comments. A sig could be considered a more subtle way of getting an ad onto the boards sneakily. Do traders insist on a format for bigging them up in their sigs? If they started doing that it would start getting a bit iffy. If an individual was making money or starting to get sizable discounts from the signature ad maybe you could argue that the club as an entity should benefit and a "nominal donation" be made to the club funds? - then how would you police any of this? Just my thoughts - not lore Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorin Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Ban the lot of em. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedM Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 My informants have been telling me that discounts have been offered for signature references so you missed out if you actually asked to advertise a trader in your signature. Ah but have I missed out? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewis Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Cough! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheefa Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 As Pete said really. I think it was Pete who recommended Chris Wilson to me when i first got my Supe. Thanks to him and the fantastic work by Chris it's been running reliably (apart from user error of course ). I also mention Chris when people ask about getting their cars serviced, checked over, things installed, problems resolved etc, because I know I trust him as do many other members here. As for the MKIVStore, I've found Martin and Jody are helpful in terms of providing info around parts and bloody getting the parts to you in their stated condition on time at decent prices! Plus, they did send me a freebie I don't think Michael is having a rant at anybody 9maybe me, he likes to do that), it's just a fair question as to what justification I suppose people have for using trader names in their sigs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamesmark Posted December 14, 2006 Share Posted December 14, 2006 Cough! http://www.benilyn.co.uk Bugger I better pay some fee I have just endorsed something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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