Suprash Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Just been sitting here thinking, could you put a Supra engine in the rear ? Is it mechanically possible ? Would it cost a fortune ? Would it drive ok, weight dristribution wise ? Just thought how cool would it look to have a "Bling" engine, and to have it showing through the rear hatch like a Ferrari or something......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigRoy Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Well it would be good for wheelies and great for loosing the back end! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Supraguy Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 ftlog.. why? LOL As has been said before.. anything can be done with a price. But, why? Cars are built for balance, and it would make it extremely arse heavy and would drive like complete poo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soonto_HAS_soop Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Great for having 6 reverse gears as well! Ben.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted May 27, 2004 Author Share Posted May 27, 2004 Just wondered, I know it would look cool, just wasnt sure about handling and stuff......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 I reckon the 2JZ is a bit long for a mid engined installation, but if you could do it I reckon the weight distribution wouldn't be too bad. maybe 60/40 rear/front. And even if the car ended up being a bit more tail happy, it would probably be more controllable on the limit because the polar moment of inertia would be much lower than with a front engined rear drive layout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 Originally posted by Ashley Willis Just wondered, I know it would look cool, just wasnt sure about handling and stuff......... Ash, do you know your problem? You think too much! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Need4Speed Posted May 27, 2004 Share Posted May 27, 2004 No! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Originally posted by CJ Ash, do you know your problem? You think too much! Ash, do you know your problem? You drink too much ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Harwood Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Originally posted by Roy Ash, do you know your problem? You drink too much ! Ash, do you know your problem? You smoke too much ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Damn! That boys got a lot of problems! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Originally posted by Matt Harwood Ash, do you know your problem? You smoke too much ! PMSL ............ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
far Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 I thought mid/rear engined cars handle a lot better than the front engine/rwd set-up ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
splurge Posted May 28, 2004 Share Posted May 28, 2004 Ashley, I have to admit it's a cool idea, but couldn't you get pretty-much the same bling effect much cheaper by leaving the engine where it is and just fitting a semi-transparent bonnet on the front? Far, a mid-engined car is generally the best layout for handling because you can usually get an excellent weight distribution without having to put too much ballast into the design. However, because the Supra was designed to be front-engined, the body was deliberately made heavier at the back to counteract it, so if you moved the engine rearwards you would just make it that much heavier at the back. I hope I'm not teaching egg-sucking to my granny here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Willson Posted May 29, 2004 Share Posted May 29, 2004 The mid engine mr2, they do grip like a ......... but then the back can go very quickly once at the limit. No good for sideways fun, but still great fun and very chuckable. I reckon the clear bonnet is a winner ! The 2JZ-GTE is a very nice looking engine, especially when tarted up a bit Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Digsy Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 As I said above, the advantages of handling for mid engined car come from the fac that it is easier to get an even weight distribution but also beause the polar moment of inertia will be much lower. A front engined rear drive car is like a dumbell with al the mass concentrated towards each end (engine, gearbox at the front and diff and fuel tank at the rear). Once you start this kind of mass distribution spinning it is very difficult to get it to stop, which is partly why some front / rear drive cars are so hard to catch once they start to slide. If you can concentrate the mass at the center of the car, the inertia is much less, so even if the car does break away (which probably has more to do with suspension geometry than weight distribution) it should be easier to catch. Mass distribution, inertia, grip. They are all linked at some level anyway, but many desgners favour the mid engined layout for handling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aerotop Dave Posted May 30, 2004 Share Posted May 30, 2004 But surely there's an element of actually designing the car with a particular layout in mind? So for example, the Supra was designed as a front engined car, so whacking the engine into the middle wouldn't transform the handling... would it? I've read somewhere very recently that the weight distribution on the Supra is 49/51, but can't for the life of me remember where now. This would seem to indicate that bunging the engine in the back would make the handling worse (as the weight dist would then be all wrong) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suprash Posted May 31, 2004 Author Share Posted May 31, 2004 Originally posted by CJ Ash, do you know your problem? You think too much! Originally posted by Roy Ash, do you know your problem? You drink too much ! Originally posted by Matt Harwood Ash, do you know your problem? You smoke too much ! PMSL at you guys, you know me to well...... @ rest of you, some good replies. Its not just about showing of your engine bling, just an engine sat there would look better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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