Wez Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Are you using a single fogger setup before the throttle body? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 What tank are you using and where is it located? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 He hasn't bought it yet, I don't fink Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlam Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 Currently I run 40-50% meth. Thats about right for the mix but i would like to add that IF you run to strong a Meth mix it will act in the worng way and increase the heat in the cylinders, so dont go mad with the meths please . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 100% meth is no problem at all. You lose the water benefits though, plus you have a flamable tank in the bay (if that's where it is) The tank should only be plastic really, methanol is fecken corrosive to aluminium and most rubbers when sitting still for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 2, 2006 Author Share Posted December 2, 2006 What tank are you using and where is it located? hi not got the kit yet,will be purchasing it soon .going for a boot mounted tank,and single fogger going into the intercooler pipe before the throttle body. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 2, 2006 Author Share Posted December 2, 2006 100% meth is no problem at all. You lose the water benefits though, plus you have a flamable tank in the bay (if that's where it is) The tank should only be plastic really, methanol is fecken corrosive to aluminium and most rubbers when sitting still for a long time. in your opinion would I be better running 100% meth for high boost or mixing with water? is it just a cost issue? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedlam Posted December 2, 2006 Share Posted December 2, 2006 100% meth is no problem at all. You lose the water benefits though, plus you have a flamable tank in the bay (if that's where it is) The tank should only be plastic really, methanol is fecken corrosive to aluminium and most rubbers when sitting still for a long time. Yep thats true and loosing the water would increase the charge temps, which is not what anyone wants. Infact i think they banned pure meth on drag cars due to the volitile nature off the stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 in your opinion would I be better running 100% meth for high boost or mixing with water? is it just a cost issue? It is not a cost issue, methanol is not expensive anyway. But water mist does different things compared to methanol. It also depends on the location(s) where it is injected. Methanol evaporates almost immediately and gets distributed very well easily. It also provides a strong intercooling effect and extra octane. But it doesn't have the in-cylinder cooling properties of the water, that is unique in nature. The higher the effective compression ratio in your cylinders (in regards to your fuel and timing) the more you need water to take up the excess. Come to think of it, I really need to re-write the W.I. pages on my site to cover this stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gamer Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I have also read that WI keeps the engine clean to some extent. Using any combo of water/meth will have some cleaning properties. I have a kit here ready to go on, I just need a tank. It is made by a company in the States called DevilsOwn. http://www.alcohol-injection.com/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Similar thing, based on the Shurflo pump. In a smart system pushing the turbo(s) way beyond the normal efficiency range, you might want two separate setups: 1. One based around Shurflo with 100% meth 2. One based around Aquamist with 30%-odd meth They could be triggered at different points using very different nozzle locations so that they can compliment each other. A stock TT could go a *long* way with this. No need for FMIC, race fuel, hybrids or even injectors (if they're 550cc already). A small single could go even further, acting as a big one at full blast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Next thing you'll be sprayin CO2 into the smic to cool the charge even more Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 There's no need. Turbo discarge temps can be made to be so close to ambient that the SMIC is more than enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Is there no benefit to having charge temperatures below ambient? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wez Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I would guess the lower the better. Ambient air can be very cold depending where you are based. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kranz Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Is there no benefit to having charge temperatures below ambient? Yes, there is. Sub zero charge temps would be good, but you may start to form ice on the throttle etc!! But, if you're using meth injection then this would act as a de-icer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dangerous brain Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 I meant more for summer use really when the main drag season is, as charge temps are well low enough this time of year. That said most drag setups have FMICs which CO2 spray over would be a very bad idea unless the intake air came directly from outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnA Posted December 3, 2006 Share Posted December 3, 2006 Is there no benefit to having charge temperatures below ambient? It depends on the levels of ambient. If it is 10C or below, then there is none at all. In fact it's worse. You don't want them lower than 20C, 25-30C is best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Posted December 3, 2006 Author Share Posted December 3, 2006 what is the best nozzle set up for a single turbo car. does the anarchy kit come with direct port(6 nozzles fed into the inlet runners) or a single fogger intercooler pipe mounter near the throttle body? has anybody on here have the anarchy kit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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